Bob:
Isn’t that more or less the argument presented in
Blondheim, D. S. 1925. Les parlers judéo-romans et la Vetus latina: étude sur les rapports entre les traductions bibliques en langue romane de juifs au moyen âge et les anciennes versions. Paris: É. Champion.
I’m not sure that any follow-up research has ever been done on this, but I would be happy to hear about it.
Frans van Liere
Department of History
Calvin College
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Grand Rapids, MI, 49546
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Ah, yes, Latin resources. This provides a good opportunity for me to ask some related pre-medieval questions. I'm working on a presentation dealing with ancient Jewish sources in Latin, and how they came to be in Latin. I know of nothing
in the Greco-Roman world claiming to be written by a Jew in Latin, apart from numerous inscriptions. I'd like to argue that some of what is collected under the "Old Latin" scriptural remnants was produced in Jewish circles (much like the Old Greek scriptural
materials later collected as "Septuagint"). To make a reasonable argument, I'm seeking information about the existence of Latin speaking Jewish contexts prior to about the end of the first century ce, or a bit later. From what I've found thus far, the leading
candidates are "Rome" (with significant Latin inscriptions in some "Jewish" catacombs, at least) and "North Africa" (with similar inscriptional evidence). Some studies claim that there are linguistic features characteristic of North African Latin in comparison
to the Latin of Rome. In my youth, I studied some of this material with reference to early Christian translations (e.g. the Epistle of Barnabas, and First Clement) and the surviving materials from Tertullian and Cyprian, especially. But I'm not "up" on the
past 40 or so years of research on such topics, so I wonder whether much progress has been made since scholars such as Christine Mohrmann and her generation (ca 1960s).
My specific hope is to be able to argue that Latin speaking Jews existed in sufficient numbers that it is probable that they produced Latin translations of some of the available scrolls and/or small codices of Jewish scriptural portions that came to them in
Greek. I don't yet know which of the many "Old Latin" pieces exhibit characteristics of a "North African" vocabulary (e.g. claritas not gloria) and/or style (e.g. frequency of "ut" constructions), and whether one can argue that these significantly pre-date
the Latin Christians (Tertullian, Cyprian) by whom some of the "Old Latin" fragments are preserved and from whom some of the linguistic criteria are derived as well. In short, if relevant new resources exist (especially on line) to pursue such subjects, I'd
be pleased to know about them. (I'm tempted to think that perhaps the Latin of "4 Ezra" [= 2 Esdras 3-14] may be a Jewish product as well -- and perhaps other such "scripturesque" items -- but the "Old Latin" scriptural evidence provides a broader basis for
argument.)
Thanks for listening!
Bob Kraft, UPenn Emeritus
On 2/7/2014 8:36 AM, Steve Cartwright wrote:
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This looks to be very useful. I will have to test this later on to determine its usefulness for medieval Latin, as well as Septuagint, NT, and Byzantine Greek. I have found some useful dictionaries for Latin
and Greek--including many of the old standards--in Google Books and
archive.org, but they don't have look-up and parsing features as this does.
Steve Cartwright
Western Michigan University
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Paul Chandler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Latinists may be interested to know about the LOGEION app <http://logeion.uchicago.edu/about.html>, launched 12/2013 and advertised
as a "one-stop look up for Greek and Latin dictionary entries". Based on the Perseus Project resources, it includes Lewis & Short's Latin Dictionary and the Liddell-Scott-Jones Greek lexicon,
a few other smaller dictionaries, and even the Ecole des Chartes electronic DuCange, all on one screen, which makes it very handy for medievalists.
A review by Daniel Plekhov <http://blogs.dickinson.edu/digitalhumanities/2014/01/28/review-logeion-app/>
calls it "a crowning achievement for the digital classics".
There are windows for basic frequencies and collocations (based on what corpora is not quite clear). For some words, under the heading "Antiquities", there are long lexical/etymological
articles from Harper's or Smith's dictionaries of antiquities (see the example of "domus" here: <http://logeion.uchicago.edu/index.html#domus>)
You can get it free on iTunes or use it with a web browser.
Are there other new marvels we should all know about? Please excuse x-posting. -- Paul
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