Interesting, Google Analytics reports 1 second as average page load time for Perseus (Philo) here, but significantly slower for Chrome; our Logeion site on the other hand also has a 1 second average load time, but is significantly faster for Chrome..Yes, these are slow speeds (and hey, I swear we're working on an upgrade), but not such as to really keep you from getting your work done, I'd say:-)On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Ethan Gruber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:I use Perseus from time to time and have noticed that it's pretty slow. Is there a reason? It doesn't seem to be a matter of server bandwidth, but the underlying data processing.
On Feb 6, 2014 7:31 PM, "david meadows" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:yes, i did mean the uchicago version ... :)On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Helma Dik <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Yes, and you'll find that Perseus under PhiloLogic has fewer bells and whistles and can be significantly faster, quite independent from distance to the source. But perhaps dm *did* mean he tried the Chicago version.On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Bruce Robertson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
It should be noted that you can run your local version of Perseus. I've been doing that for my students on campus (and to support various XML experiments) for years. I suppose it would be a good project for someone to make a Virtualbox instance of Perseus in order to simplify this.On this Digital Classicist List in particular, this should be the preferred solution to issues of speed.Yours,Bruce Robertson, HeadDept. of Classics, Mount Allison UniversityOn Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:49 PM, david meadows <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
maybe it's faster at or near uchicago, but perseus is often a trip to the 90s speedwise here ... i dont think im alone in that regard
Sent from my iPadRe, navigation:In fact you can choose to bring up more than a paragraph at a time; you select the size of 'chunk' that you would like in the left side bar.On perseus.uchicago.edu you have no such option, but you also get more than a short paragraph at a time, I think. And it's pretty fast.Alpheios, too, is pretty fast in my experience.On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Bruce Robertson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This is a good point, but in a dreaming-of-a-better-world frame of mind, I'm not sure in 20 years I want my students to be giving HUP their cash just to access up-to-date translations. I'd rather that a a) computational framework associates translations with texts; and b) institutional value exists for this work in the academy so that translations are available free of cost or perhaps at a range of costs, all of which are lower than what is the case now.In the fight for students in our classrooms and (to a lesser extent) interested laypersons, the abolition of expensive texts is an important weapon, and one that we can forge faster than other fields.Yrs,BruceOn Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Scot Mcphee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Basically everything the Loeb can do plus link to dictionaries ... Perhaps include better navigation than the current Perseus, ability to work away from a network etcFor those of us who can read the Latin and Greek the online content of Perseus is fine. But for students, who may need the translations to help them learn, the 1897 or 1923 (etc) translations - in English idiomatic for the age - isn’t always ideal. So one thing the Loeb can bring to the table is the copyright on better translations.
Scot.
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