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Hi Sarah

as we have some handy, I thought I would ask a specialist, her reply was as
quoted below, I hope it's helpful
regards, Deb



Hi Deb,

With pleasure.

"Native" is a term without any clear definition - "native" speakers of
English range widely in the varieties they speak and the ranges of styles
and registers they use. The only area where there is a clear notion of what
it means to have "native" competence is written language, because there is
a fixed set of rules that can serve as a reference point. This competence,
however, is not "native", but acquired to a particular form of education
that even "native" speakers may lack.  "Native" is also problematic because
there are many speakers who could claim to be "native" speakers of more
than two languages. Till today, there are no good definitions of bilingual
or multilingual speakers, because the circumstances of acquisition vary so
much, the domains in which the languages are used are often not the same
and impede proficiency tests, and language repertoires change over an
individual's lifetime. In the extreme case, one could argue that there are
also speakers without a "native" language. In today's mobile world,
wordings like "native", which rely on idealised monolingual speakers, are
more difficult to apply than ever.

I agree, however,  that "fluent" is by no means clearer.

In my most recent job ads, I used the following phrasing: "Excellent oral
and written communication skills in English are required." In other
sections in the job description, the exact nature of these communication
skills was described, fo instance with paragraphs like

"*Oral communication:*

   - Ability to summarise and interpret complex, conceptual and specialist
   matters to suit different audiences with varying levels of understanding
   and ability
   - Ability to adjust content of information that needs careful
   explanation or interpretation to suit the needs of different audiences

*Written/Electronic Communication:*

   - Ability to summarise and interpret complex, conceptual and specialist
   matters using a range of styles and media selected to meet the needs of a
   diverse audience
   - Ability to adjust the level of content and use a range of formats, to
   meet the needs of different audiences ensuring their understanding"


While this is as open to interpretation as any verbal description of a
skill that cannot be directly tested, it moves away from "native", and is
more precise in the sense that also a native speaker could lack in oral and
written communication skills in one or more of the domains required - they
could suffer a speech disorder, speak a substandard variety of English not
suitable for academic contexts, be dyslexic, etc. Because of excluding
these cases, I am happier with our solution than with the contentious
"native".

I hope this is helpful.

Best,

Friederike

Prof. Friederike Lüpke
*Crossroads Project*
SOAS, University of London
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On 12 February 2014 15:08, Guise, Sarah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> Just wanted to do a quick straw poll. We've had quite a few queries in the
> past few months from our modern language departments wishing to publish job
> adverts on jobs.ac.uk asking for people who are "*native speakers or have
> native speaker competence in ..."*
>
>
>
> Jobs.ac.uk take issue with this phraseology but our academics are adamant
> it is the correct linguistic term and don't wish to change their adverts.
> "Fluency" has a slightly different meaning when talking about language
> learning i.e. the ability to speak relatively quickly and smoothly, but not
> necessarily accurately. I can see both sides as 'native' certainly has a
> connotation but is qualified by the addition of 'native speaker
> competence'.
>
>
>
> Have others had this issue? Did you create a policy on it? Any other
> thoughts? Thanks!
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Sarah
>
> Sarah Guise
> Head of Equalities and Diversity
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