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Maddie et al Cheers for that - so long ago since i read that must have mixed it up with something i read at the time - was checking in the Bod but their edition doesn't have an index so could n't find any reference to sex-change/transexual etc in there or indeed kate millet's sexual politics - which was other thing i was reading at the time at school . I'm quite disappointed about the other stuff germain greer has written although realise she is something of a provocature - and guess it is still an issue for some feminists when someone not born female assumes a leadership role that would once have been reserved for women. I guess the recent controversy with susanna moore in uk was connected with that. As to special terms / neologisms - i find them a bit problematic in use - apart from the more obvious examples - i would still use "he or she" rather than hir etc - which doesn't work for me. Some of the nitpicking over terminology can sometimes inhibit genuine debate of issues that are tricky - and may stop people expressing any reservations they may still have - same with rascism, immigration etc perhaps its better to let people talk rather than branding them x as soon as they open their mouth? So in paganism i suspect some pagans still find it problematic - having reclaiming the role of the priestess to then have it occupied by someone who was not born a women etc. People's understanding of the issue has obviously evolved - how transexuals may also have been on a difficult struggle to find themselves and be at peace - i think our understanding of how tough it must be, to be trapped in the wrong body . India and other ancient cultures do indeed have examples of intermediate sex but this is often still a repressive tolerance - India, as we know has serious problems vis a vis sexual politics - a sex change maybe give some sort of tolerance but normal gay life is still criminalised in some states - and this seems to be getting worse - senebty Mogg Morgan On 21/02/2014 22:17, M. S. Spencer wrote: > Sorry Mogg, you are mistaken. > > Perhaps you are thinking of *Andrea Dworkin* who only recently called for > acceptance and inclusion of trans people. > > Here is a link detailing Greer's history. Even Caitlin Moran calls her out > often for her ghastly transphobia. > > http://fightback.org.nz/2012/03/14/leaflet-germaine-greers-transphobia-a-ghastly-parody-of-womens-liberation/ > > Greer has been vehementely opposed to respecting transgeder women (and > men!) since those days. She was even protested when visiting New Zealand by > a local queer advocacy group. > > Maddie > >