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Well, I can see you are an observant thought fox, Dave. The heat here has cooked out any residue of perception in my battered self. Like the idea of the snobby fox. Could he perhaps be a snox?

Bill

> On 17 Jan 2014, at 8:07 pm, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Bill
> 
> 29 overnight! we're having a heatwave too as it's forecast to hit 6 degrees
> at 2 in the morning. I only know a little about urban foxes, but am an
> urban animal myself too. I suspect that the ones we see by the flats are a
> succession of young inexperience males recently turfed out by mama: two
> years ago on Christmas Day I came across one as road-kill (outside a former
> arts cinema!) and could see it was male while another time I even saw one
> sleeping, curled up, in the open, on the grassy verge of a nearby
> recreation ground (next to the prison actually - these foxes choose their
> spots) and a third time one came right up to the entrance door of the
> flats, sniffed, then turned away as if overcome by snobbery. Though perhaps
> it didn't have an entry fob.  I doubt if any of these (including becoming
> road-kill) is the mark of a practised Reynard.
> 
> best
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>> On 16 January 2014 11:30, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Dave for the clarification. Foxes we get here occasionally but none
>> I know would claim them or know their habits as well as you appear to.
>> Dusk's throats driving us crazy tonight. 44 done, minimum 29 overnight and
>> dogs barking echoing up and down the valley. Foxes are at least quiet
>> killers.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On 16/01/2014, at 10:15 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ta Bill. Here the weather has been not quite zero in the daytime and the
>>> coasts have been reminded of being an island in northern winter. We went
>> by
>>> train one day to Nottingham last week and the Soar in its lower reaches
>> was
>>> waterlogging the grazing fields of north west Leicestershire while even
>> old
>>> Grand-Father Trent had been disturbed and some of the lakes at
>> Attenborough
>>> had overflowed their banks. The fox was a problem: I changed the 'our' to
>>> 'the' back and forth several times. I also had 'foxes' and both 'vixen'
>> and
>>> 'vixens' as well as 'scatter/s' for 'hide/s'. a little explanation part
>>> one: although I live on the edge of a city centre in a tower block
>> between
>>> two arterial roads 'we' do have 'our' resident fox. or rather the
>>> impression of 'one'. Said fox might be a succession of ones, particularly
>>> if male, but possibly less so if female. Vixens do retain their territory
>>> while males are ejected upon adulthood. It is estimated, I understand,
>> that
>>> about one third of Britain's fox population dies each winter, with
>>> mortality at it's highest among the young males. Explanation part two - I
>>> was using externals to write about interiors - I am a kind of
>> philosophical
>>> materialist who also likes Bishop Berkeley and more. Thanks again for
>> your
>>> kind words - the question of ownership did trouble me, but it was one of
>> an
>>> image only :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> best
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 15 January 2014 19:40, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like a bit of hush to the weather in my pillow thanks, David. 44
>>>> dagger degrees expected today here in Melbourne after previous days of
>> 43
>>>> and 42. The wind is saving its argument until tomorrow apparently when
>> full
>>>> throated fire risks gape. I love Primitive. One query about the sense of
>>>> ownersip of foxes.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 3:53 am, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like the 'as if' of it all, David...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:37 AM, David Bircumshaw <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Haven't done one of these for a while, so here's a little exercise:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *                    Primitive*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All night the rain has argued with the wind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A balloon turns at its mooring, as if adrift
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the hushed pillowed weather of my head.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Our foxes hide as the dawn’s throats wake.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> David Joseph Bircumshaw
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Douglas Barbour
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Swept snow, Li Po,
>>>>> by dawn’s 40-watt moon
>>>>> to the road that hies to office
>>>>> away from home.
>>>>> 
>>>>>          Lorine Niedecker
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Joseph Bircumshaw
> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.com
>