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It's also quite funny that they were unaware of the annual BBC Schools News project which is aimed at 13 year olds. They believe it ticks the box for "kids studying news" - I think they're mistaken and said so in the BFI/Ofcom research report "Lifeblood of Democracy? Teaching TV News" (link to follow). Cary Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Jan 2014, at 11:12, "Ganz, Adam" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > The really shocking thing is that the Newsnight researchers were either too ignorant or too snobbish to invite any of the many distinguished Media theorists who might have contributed to the panel -and are now contributing to the thread. > > > Perhaps MECCSA could propose a debate with de Botton about the need for Media Studies in school, as a counter to the Govian agenda referred to above. > > > > The IoE would be a great place to host it. > > > > Best > > > Adam Ganz > > Senior Lecturer > > Department of Media Arts > Royal Holloway University of London > Egham Surrey > TW20 0EX > > 01784 443734 > > > From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Paul Lashmar <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 30 January 2014 11:08 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Newsnight De Botton on 'the news" > > Gary – that’s absolutely right. Schools also teach pupils to critique news in many other contexts – debates, etc. The problem is ontological not pedagogical. You have got to want to understand the world before anyone can teach you how. > > The discussion thereafter was more heat than light. > > As > > From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Garry Whannel > Sent: 30 January 2014 10:20 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Newsnight De Botton on 'the news" > > Alain De Botton was on Newsnight last night. He declared that it was a problem that we don't teach children how to "read" the news. He appeared to unaware of the existence of Media Studies. None of the panel, which included Alastair Campbell, challenged his ill informed views. I think MeCCSA should consider registering a complaint on behalf of the profession. The item on Newsnight is available on IPLayer. It commences 16.00m in. > At 16.43 Alain de Botton at the start of a filmed intro item, declares: > “At school they teach you how to analyse books and pictures, but no one ever tells you how to make sense of that far more powerful questionable art form, the news. We’re taught to decode Shakespeare but not the celebrity section of he Daily Mail; George Eliot but not The Sun” > How long has Media Studies been an A Level subject ? > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > MeCCSA mailing list > -------------------------------------------------------- > To manage your subscription or unsubscribe from the MECCSA list, please visit: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=MECCSA&A=1 > ------------------------------------------------------- > MeCCSA is the subject association for the field of media, communication and cultural studies in UK Higher Education. 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