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It's been a couple of years since I played around the BRUKER files, but I remember being a bit surprised by how off those values were from the nominal value...  

Was there any variation in the effective BVALS based on the resolution of the DTI scan?  If so maybe having to "push" the scanner gradients harder could cause more of a deviation from the expected BVAL, of course there's also the possibility BRUKER is calculating them wrong.

The variation did seem extensive.... I perhaps wrongly assumed that BRUKER was better at physics than I am... 




On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Harms, Michael <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

The question I would have, based on the numbers you showed, is whether Bruker's calculation of the effective b-value is accurate.  I raise this because if you requested a nominal b-value of 1000, and you're getting putative effective b-values of 1200 - 1330, that doesn't seem right.  As point of reference, for the HCP, where our nominal b-values are 1000, 2000, and 3000, we get deviations from those of only 10-15 for the effective b-values calculated by Siemens.

cheers,
-MH

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From: David Gutman <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: FSL - FMRIB's Software Library <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:48 AM
To: FSL - FMRIB's Software Library <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [FSL] Bval and Bvecs on bruker

It's better to use the actual applied BVALS--- especially since some of them deviate from the nominal value ( 1000 ) by quite a bit..



On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Manuel Blesa <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Barbara,

The information about the bvecs was very usefull. Thanks

I have more one question: in the bvals, I have to write the nominal value (the input of the scanner: 0 0 0 1000 1000...) or the effective value (that is obtained from the file: 11.015 11.015 11.015 1319.003 1196.645 1334.212...)? I think the second option is more accurate, but I'm not sure.

The method file is from the Bruker data, a file with all the parameters that you used.

Best regards,

Manuel Blesa



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Emory University School of Medicine

 


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Emory University School of Medicine