I vote for a webcast too that would be great. AAAS has them frequently with room for discussion, I have met wonderful colleagues outside my expertise through these events which even allow for contributions. Thanks for doing this I hope it is a great success!

Best

Amy

From: "Mayer, Dan" <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:48 AM
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Subject: Re: Real .v. Rubbish EBM

Hi Ruth and list:

 

This sounds like a wonderful seminar, and for those of us unable to get to the UK for the day, is there any way to do this as a Webinar?   I will plan to be at that if it can be set up.

Thanks for the try, and best New Year wishes to all,

Dan

 

 

Dan Mayer, MD

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Albany Medical College

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From: Evidence based health (EBH) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ruth Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 10:45 AM
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Subject: Real .v. Rubbish EBM

 

Tuesday 14^th January 2014

10:00 -12:30 (Coffee available from 09:30)

Kellogg College, 62 Banbury Road, Oxford

In September 2013 Trish Greenhalgh challenged Carl Heneghan to promote 'real versus rubbish EBM' on Twitter. An example of rubbish EBM might be (for example) putting a 75 year old on statins because the guidelines say you should, with no account of their social situation, comorbidity, life expectancy etc. Real EBM from a clinicians perspective would include taking patient values and circumstances into account alongside evidence from guidelines ­and from an organizational perspective it would include measures to avoid a managerialist, technocratic approach to promoting guideline adherence.

A meeting has been set up in Oxford with the aim is to define real and rubbish EBM more rigorously.  As part of this meeting there will be an open session for all who would like to hear views on real v rubbish EBM  from the experts.

 

Spaces a very limited, to register your interest please email [log in to unmask].

 

Titles include:

Carl Heneghan - Why most research should not reach the appraisal step

Paul Glasziou - Using healthy skepticism in the patient's interests

Jeremy Howick - A new generation of bias in EBM

Des Spence - EBM as a marketing tool for Big Pharma

Neal Maskrey - It is not real versus rubbish, but EBM versus EBM2

Jon Brassey - An alternative system for systematic review production

Richard Lehman - Patient Centred Evidence - the Unicorn that must be found

Margaret McCartney - Too much treatment for the well, and not enough for the sick

Mike Kelly - Philosophical reflections on rubbish EBM

Iona Heath - EBM is a means – but to what end?

Ruth Davis

CEBM Centre Manager

Department of Primary Care Health Sciences

University of Oxford

Tel: 01865 289322

Tw: @CebmOxford

www.cebm.ox.ac.uk

 

 

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