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Hello, The specimen in question is not of Ziziphus. Zyziphus fruit-stone has two seed chambers with clear dividing wall. It is clearly not to be seen on Charlotte’s material. Regards, Lucy Met vriendelijke groet, Dr. Lucy Kubiak-Martens Archeobotanist Biax Consult Biologische Archeologie & Landschapreconstructie Hogendijk 134 1506 AL Zaandam Nederland T +31 (0)75 616 10 10 F +31 (0)75 614 99 80 www.biax.nl > I don't know Ziziphus but google has come up with an image: > > http://anthrome.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/img_6882.jpg > > Whilst the shape is more elongated than yours Charlotte the outside looks > very like. I'm afraid I'm not convinced they are Crataegus - non of my > reference of C. monogyna, laevigata/oxycanthoides has such a convoluted > outsides although a few get close to the size. > > Jacqui > _____________________________________________ > Jacqui Huntley | Science Advisor North East > > Direct Line: 0191 269 1250 > Mobile phone (preferred contact): 077134 00387 > > English Heritage | Bessie Surtees House, > 41-44 Sandhill | Newcastle upon Tyne | NE1 3JF > > Save trees. Please do not print this message unless essential > ________________________________________ > From: The archaeobotany mailing list [[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of O'BRIEN C.E. [[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 31 January 2014 12:30 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Unidentified fruitstone > > Thanks for everyone’s suggestions. Dissection definitely seems the way to > go. Crataegus was looking very promising from the external point of view, > but the internal cavity shape and internal cell structure don’t seem right > – also my British Crataegus monogyna fruitstones (far right of photo) are > a good bit smaller than my ‘unknown’. > > I would be very keen to see your Ziziphus reference material Don – thanks > for the offer. > > Having dissected the specimen, the cell structure of the wall and internal > cavity is very reminiscent of olive (far left of photo) – can you get > olive fruitstones in this less elongated shape? > > Thanks again, > Charlotte > > Charlotte O'Brien BA PhD > Environmental Laboratories Manager > Archaeological Services > Durham University > South Road > Durham > DH1 3LE > > direct line 0191 334 1113 > tel 0191 334 1121 > fax 0191 334 1126 > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > www.dur.ac.uk/archaeological.services<https://www.dur.ac.uk/archaeological.services/> > > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal > views which are not the views of English Heritage unless specifically > stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your > system and notify the sender immediately. Do not use, copy or disclose the > information in any way nor act in reliance on it. Any information sent to > English Heritage may become publicly available. > > Portico: your gateway to information on sites in the National Heritage > Collection; have a look and tell us what you think. > http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/professional/archives-and-collections/portico/ >