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Larry Eigner I value of course but he is not my cup of tea with the surfeit of adjectives and pronouns hard to swallow. But purely a personal quibble rather than a dismissal of Larry. Cid's work was leaner as well as sharper Jesse. His output vast of course - "OF" a classic but expensive. Frank Samperi I rate very highly indeed but his scant in print situation is a disgrace. By now at least a volume one of a Samperi Collected should be in print. Dithering does Frank an injustice but suits secondhand sellers which is sad. Zukofsky gave only Samperi his blessing as a worthy poet. On Language poetry it promised loads but yielded far less than expected. Again just my own view. -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] To: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 6:41 Subject: Re: El Cid, Olson and Prynne All of us dear Jesse indeed have our flaws but it adds to the variety of opinions. Cid I recall with warmth and he had a far greater talent than others who will be remembered. To be honest Jesse the Objectivists now make me yawn and I wasted a lot of precious time studying their work. Having left their shadow is a liberation. I send love to all in Japan and thanks for your kind reply which is in stark contrast to the silence of the sheep on these bleak islands. But apartheid is apartheid and by now I am well used to being outside the myopic fold. -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] To: BRITISH-IRISH-POETS Sent: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 23:58 Subject: El Cid, Olson and Prynne Sean, Thanks for the good words, but I believe Cid Corman because he told me personally looking me right in the eye and though he sometimes exaggerated he never--to the best of my knowledge--lied. If you have any evidence that he did, Sean, this is the place to lay it out plain stark and simple and I'll thank you for clearing up my impressions of my late friend Cid Corman, who up to this very moment I believe and still believe to have been quite a fine man, though one with quirks aplenty as haven't we all? And take a look at the abstract of Corman's correspondence and you'll see Prynne writing in 1961 to Cid and Cid writing back and so it went on, but an absract proves nothing. And your take on the Objectivists and Larry E., Sean, I find a bit baffling too. Thanks Pierre for your note. Jesse from Japan