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Dr Vasilev, 
     As a scholar who has written about the possibility of English Cathars (there are about a dozen examples of what might be English Cathars) and about John Wyclif, I am naturally interested in your assertion that there is a connection between Cathars and Wyclif, though I have not yet had a chance to read your work (but I have read Tanner's review of it). Could you tell me, are you arguing for a direct connection between Catharism and Wyclif? And what connection are you suggesting? That Wyclif had read specific Cathar texts? 

Andrew E. Larsen 
Marquette University
On Nov 30, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Georgi Vasilev wrote:

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Dear D-r Zbiral, I am really surprised. You are again using general views, your are advising me how to work, however you never mention, or question no one fact, quoted by me.
I am afraid, I have to abandon such a discussion in which you are repeating and listening to your voice only.
Sincerely:
prof. Georgi Vasilev
www.bogomilism.eu


On Saturday, November 30, 2013 2:39 PM, David Zbíral <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Dear Professor Vasilev,
 
thank you for pointing to me this review of your book by Norman Tanner. It states, among others, that "[i]t is very useful to have the passages set side by side and the similarities, regarding both ideas and language, are often striking. One wonders, nevertheless, whether Lollards were drawing directly on Bogomil and Cathar teachings, or whether, rather, the parallels result from a wider common pool of ideas and expressions". I would indeed opt for the latter alternative.
 
What I wanted to do at this moment and on this forum is to point out that the view of Bogomil influence on Lollardy voiced in your e-mail is original rather than representative of mainstream scholarship on Bogomil influences in the West as far as I am aware of it. For the time being, I am happy with that. But the question of influences is of course an intriguing one and I am far from being the most deconstructionist scholar in the debate (normally, I even defend some links between Italian dissidents in the 13th century and the Balkans, against the view of much more radical - or more critical? - scholars, e.g. Jean-Louis Biget). And you are of course right that in order to arrive to any conclusive statements, it would be necessary to deal with particular arguments (their content and their structure).
 
With all best wishes,
David Zbíral
Executive Editor of Religio: Revue pro religionistiku
General Secretary of the Czech Association for the Study of Religions
Department for the Study of Religions
Masaryk University
Arne Nováka 1
602 00 Brno
Czech Republic


---------- Původní zpráva ----------
Od: Georgi Vasilev <[log in to unmask]>
Datum: 30. 11. 2013
Předmět: Re: [M-R] Bogomil/Cathar influence on Lollardy

Dear D-r Zbiral,
you are voicing  general statement, and, you know, eneral statement not a valid argument in science. In my book "Heresy and the England Reformation (Bogomil-Cathar Influence on Wycliffe, Langland, Tyndale and Milton)" (USA, London - 2007) I am quoting a lot of facts, proving the relationship Bogomils-Cathars-Lollards. Please, see them, and then we can continue our discussion.
Sincerely:
prof. Georgi Vasilev www.bogomilism.eu
P.P. By the way you can consult the opinion of professor Norman Tanner, one of the best specialist on Lollardy http://www.utoronto.ca/tsq/14/tanner14.shtml 


On Saturday, November 30, 2013 12:08 AM, David Zbíral <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Dear Professor Vasilev,
 
apart from the fact that no such link is made in the original e-mail ("your  assumption relating Albigensian movement to the birth of Lollardy is quite correct" is an incorrect rendering of it), I am afraid that such views on cultural influences of Bogomilism and Catharism are extremely doubtful - not to mention critical scholarship reconsidering, if not undermining, these categories themselves.
 
All the best,
David Zbíral
Executive Editor of Religio: Revue pro religionistiku
General Secretary of the Czech Association for the Study of Religions
Department for the Study of Religions
Masaryk University
Arne Nováka 1
602 00 Brno
Czech Republic
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