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Hello all, FY possible I, based on discussion below: Elshaug AG, McWilliams JM, Landon BE. The value of low-value lists. JAMA. 2013 Feb 27;309(8):775-6. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1656265 (*see eTable for 4 lists) Feedback gratefully received. Regards, Adam Adam Elshaug, MPH, PhD Associate Professor of Health Care Policy HCF Research Foundation Principal Research Fellow Menzies Centre for Health Policy | Sydney School of Public Health THE UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY Victor Coppleson Building D02 | The University of Sydney | NSW | 2006 T +61 2 9036 7838 | M +61 411 537 517 E [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> W http://sydney.edu.au/medicine/public-health/menzies-health-policy/ CRICOS 00026A This email plus any attachments to it are confidential. Any unauthorised use is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please delete it and any attachments. Please think of our environment and only print this e-mail if necessary. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dreaves, Hilary <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:12 AM Subject: Re: lists of disproven medical practices To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Hi, A small thought from a "lurker" in the group.... It goes without saying that disinvestment decisions are also evidenced by cost savings/efficiencies/effectiveness, or whatever euphemism is used, as well as evidence of a purely clinical nature. Not sure how clear the distinctions might be in the literature.......... As a non-clinician, I'm thinking about de-commissioning decisions and the copious discussion streams in other e-groups on matters such as "only one cataract op paid for on NHS (no need for two), because you can then see well enough" - even though there might be impacts around accidents, fires, falls, etc as a result ........ Hilary Dreaves Research Fellow (HIA) IMPACT International Health Impact Assessment Consortium Department of Public Health and Policy Institute of Psychology, Health and Society University of Liverpool Liverpool L69 3GB Tel: +44(0)151-794 5004<tel:%2B44%280%29151-794%205004> (office) Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> website: www.healthimpactassessment.co.uk<http://www.healthimpactassessment.co.uk> Skype: hilary.dreaves1 WHO Collaborating Centre for Policy Research on Social Determinants of Health 2009 winner Research Councils UK Knowledge Transfer Award for Public Policy and Service Impact. From: Evidence based health (EBH) [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Greg Fell Sent: 19 November 2013 08:59 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: lists of disproven medical practices Nancy There are thousands of said lists Some published some not Some of better q and evidential basis than others Some exist on account of disproven / ineffective Some on the basis of low value (or lower than other competing technologies) Don't think there is a single place where they are all collated I have loads squirreled away. I'll email them to you. Can't post on this group as it wld upset the megabyte police Greg Greg Fell 07582 103112 From: Carol Lefebvre [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 08:51 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Re: lists of disproven medical practices Dear Nancy Within health technology assessment (HTA) circles this tends to be referred to as 'disinvestment' so you may find a search on that term might throw up some relevant information. With best wishes Carol Carol Lefebvre Independent Information Consultant, Lefebvre Associates Ltd, Oxford, UK Co-Convenor, Cochrane Information Retrieval Methods Group [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> This e-mail contains information intended for the recipient only. Should you receive this e-mail in error, please contact the sender and then delete the original from your system. I cannot guarantee that any attachments to this e-mail are free of software viruses. You should therefore check for viruses before opening any attachments. From: Evidence based health (EBH) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adams, Nancy Sent: 19 November 2013 01:35 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: lists of disproven medical practices Dear EBH Folks, I'm looking for lists of disproven or contested medical practices that I could use as the basis of scenarios for searching point-of-care information resources. One I found is, "A decade of reversal: an analysis of 146 discontinued medical practices" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23871230 and another is the "Choosing Wisely" lists by the ABIM Foundation (http://www.choosingwisely.org). Does anyone know of any other such lists? Sincerely, Nancy E. Adams, M.L.I.S. Associate Director/Coordinator of Education & Instruction Penn State Hershey George T. Harrell Health Sciences Library Mail Code H127 | 500 University Dr. | P.O. 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