Hi All,

As Terry said this is certainly getting interesting.

Greg, whilst the slightly archaic lefty in me likes the idea of a break away from museums with archaeological archive centres established across the country by militant archaeologists, patrolling the boundaries mattocks in hand, I'm not sure we would have the whole community's support. 

Regarding the LAARC workshop you are right, not every single individual material type is being considered at the workshop. For clarity the group discussions are on Pottery, Human Bone, Animal Bone, Glass, Metal (bulk finds and slag), Ceramic Building Material, Moulded Stone and Organic Finds (wood, worked bone etc). I wasn't involved in drawing up this list, but I would add these happen to be the finds taking up the majority of the space in the LAARC.  Also I think shells should be discussed in the animal bones session, if I had my way I would rename it zooarch and use that term in its broadest sense.

I think the LAARC (which is by no means perfect) should be praised for grasping the nettle and starting to discuss this with the archaeological community. It could just act like other institutions, like Pam's experience with the West Stow material, and say no sorry we don't want your material. In terms of the dioramas etc, as far as I'm aware these do not fall under the LAARCs remit, which is purely to archive the finds from archaeological excavations. Greg I hope you attend and we can discussion all forms of shells and bones.

The meeting is just one organisation trying to deal with its problems (in the LAARCs case archaeological material from London). But this appears to be problem we are all facing, so I agree an ICAZ session would be very timely.

Cheers

Jim 


From: GREG CAMPBELL <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: GREG CAMPBELL <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:03
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Selective retention and disposal of animal remains

Dear James and Zooarchers:  I do hope to attend the London retention workshop as well, having built some retention/disposal guidelines at the request of a curator for a regional museum group, which have gone forward for consideration. This does not mean I approve of disposal in any way, because
 
-all selection criteria impose a bias, disrupting the association of types and sizes present in the excavated material.
 
-discarding anything always risks discarding material that future techniques require for development or use
 
-going through the stacks of material to decide what needs to be discarded requires time
and effort that has to be paid for, money that could be saved by just archiving everything
 
If museums are for storing a people's cultural memory, then discarding items from museums means the loss of those memories; it's cultural Alzheimer's Disease.
 
A correction: the London workshop does NOT cover all material types:
 
1) it does not cover marine shell.  Analysis of marine shell is at the same stage as analysis of faunal remains in the 1970s; a large array of techniques from palaeontology, biometry, biochemistry and geochronology are beginning to be routinely applied after adaptation to answer archaeological questions, while many others are being developed.  Archaeomalacologists are in the Catch-22 situation of vertebrate zooarchaeologists forty years ago: there is little appreciation of shells' research potential (and their full potential is rapidly expanding), so they are not researched, so they are not excavated representatively or retained, so they seem to have little research potential, so they are not researched,.....
So we shell specialists are being asked to select and discard material without any sound notion about it's archaeological potential, even in the near future. (Actually, we aren't being asked at all, for this workshop.)
 
2) it does not cover objects suitable for display.  If the crisis really is about space, dispose of the poorer examples of the things that take up the most space, like statues, or suits of armour, or slabs of frescoed wall, or cases of illuminated manuscripts.  (If the problem is a lack of capital to construct more storage, selling these would generate the needed capital.)  Those dusty old dioramas, uninformed by recent archaeological research but too expensive to re-do, could go as well.
 
Failure to include these two materials in the workshop speaks volumes about the underlying true cause of this crisis: museums are ceasing to be suitable or safe places for archaeological material.  Museums are turning into art galleries: their curators and directorial committee members like pretty or interesting stuff (jewel-encrusted gold reliquaries, dinosaurs, . . . you know what I mean), and they measure their success by the number of ordinary folk they get in their museum to look at their pretty or interesting stuff.  The grubby broken ordinary things, that all materials specialists use to reconstruct the real lives of the real people in the past who made and appreciated that pretty and interesting stuff in the first place, are 'back-stage' things that the 'front of house' museum staff find at least a little disgusting.
 
Perhaps we should abandon the museums and work together, and with the field archaeologists, to construct archaeological collections depositories separate from museums and galleries, supported by the money that went to support the archaeological functions of museums and galleries.
 
Another (hopefully thought-provoking) rant from
 
Greg Campbell
The Naive Chemist
 
From: James Morris <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 October 2013, 10:54
Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Selective retention and disposal of animal remains

Hi all,

This is a really interesting thread. I will be chairing the discussions on animal bone retention at the LAARC workshop Sylvia posted about. The work is covering all material types including human remains, pottery metal work etc. Concurrent discussions will be running so it will be interesting to see what comes out of each group.

All the discussion groups will be covering the same questions. These include:
  • What attributes characterise a significant collection worthy of retention? Examples may include
    • How important is it that sites are from well excavated, secure contexts?
    • How important is site documentation?
    • Should collections with unusual elements (e.g. rare species, unusual imports) be given special weight?
    • Are type sites (e.g. production, dating) more significant than other collections?
    • Is size an important criteria?
    • Are collections from areas in which few archaeological remains have been recovered more important than those of equivalent size and date from areas of more intensive activity?
  • Is it preferable to keep samples from many collections, or retain whole collections at the expense of others?
  • What safeguards should be put in place prior to discard to minimise the loss of information (e.g. additional study, publication)?
  • How are collections currently used and how can the retention policy account for the future needs of researchers and enquirers?
  • If discard takes place, what should happen to the discard (university, handling collections etc)?

I will attempt to incorporate the points that have been raised on zooarch as I believe this is an issue we urgently need to engage with as a community. My general take on the matter is that in an ideal world all archaeology material should be keep in well funded, accessible, museum resource centres. But we don't live in an ideal world. Therefore if decisions on retention are going to be made, and it looks they have to be, its better that we help inform those decisions rather than have them made without our input. 

I will be writing up the notes from the sessions and I will be happy to post them on zooarch.

All the best

Jim

Dr James Morris MIFA
Lecturer in Archaeology
School of Forensic and Investigative Sciences
University of Central Lancashire
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On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:05, David Orton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear All,

I think we can all agree that complete retention is the ideal, but also that circumstances beyond our control will sometimes prevent it being attained. Even where storage is not currently a problem, it inevitably will become one at some point. For that reason the original question is extremely pertinent and I'm glad it's being discussed. I should mention that I've never been in the position of having to make decisions about storage - for which I'm extremely grateful - but that I have spent a lot of time working with museum collections in several countries, both for conventional zooarchaeology and when sampling for various biomolecular analyses, and hence have a few thoughts on the matter.

There are, of course, an infinite number of strategies that might be adopted when it comes to selecting which bones to hang onto with all the tenacity one can muster, and which regretfully to let go. As I see it though, there are two broad approaches - both of which have already been touched upon in this debate.

Firstly, there is the view that contextual integrity is sacred. Most of us would probably agree that unstratified bones and mixed or unsecure contexts would be the first to go, when pressed, but a context-based approach would go beyond this to argue for the retention of all bones from certain contexts and (only if absolutely necessary, of course) the wholesale discard of others. Perhaps one would retain material from the contexts deemed most secure or useful - pits, house floors, etc. - or alternatively one might attempt a stratified sample across different types of deposit. But in either case, the idea is that throwing away any of the bones from a given context renders the remaining material compromised. In my view this is clearly the correct strategy for unstudied assemblages, but I'm not so sure once detailed study has been conducted. In an ideal world we would obviously want to retain the possibility of re-analysis by future zooarchaeologists, which would surely rely upon uncompromised context-level assemblages, but this has to be weighed against the (perhaps more likely) scenario that future study will involve selective sampling of particular species and elements for biomolecular and/or morphometric analysis, rather than replication of the basic zooarchaeology.

This brings me on to the second, specimen-focused approach: retention of a sample of the bones most likely to be useful for specialist analyses. This might imply discard of unidentified specimens, or in a more extreme case selective retention of specimens based on a stratified sample of taxa, elements, and contexts/phases. The downside is obviously that the assemblage loses any value for conventional zooarchaeology; the upside is that the potential for things like aDNA, dental microwear, GMM, and stable isotopic analysis is maintained as much as possible - although our ability to predict which samples will be useful in future is of course limited. Good specimens for 14C dating (e.g. well preserved, articulated specimens of ruminants from secure contexts) might also be selectively retained. One can imagine a researcher's frustration when discovering that that one key specimen of an exotic species, mentioned in the report as coming from unit 18943, has in fact been thrown away because 18943 wasn't considered a particularly important unit. As Alice has pointed out, poor recovery in the field will in any case already have undermined the statistical reliability of many zooarchaeological assemblages. In such cases, a strong argument could be made for cutting one's loses and focusing a sampling strategy at the specimen rather than context level.

There are various other considerations that complicate this dilemma. Firstly, we must obviously acknowledge that 'studied' is not an absolute term, potentially implying anything from a quick once-over and diagnostic zone count to an intensive and wide-ranging analysis over many years (perhaps as someone's PhD, for example). Taphonomy, in particular, is an area of huge variation in terms of just what is recorded - there is always scope for a future analyst to revisit a collection in order to try out some additional taphonomic indicators. Indeed this fairly frequently occurs, and unlike most other forms of after-the-fact specialist analysis it often relies upon the integrity of the bone collection from each context studied, favouring the context-focused approach to retention.
A second complication is perhaps a minor issue at present, but likely to become more important quite rapidly: the use of proteomics-based identification techniques such as ZooMS. The existence of this technology suddenly means that 'unidentified' specimens are not necessarily unidentifiable, and thus also rather undermines the specimen-focused approach. Indeed, the prospect has been raised of obtaining a faunal spectrum from a mass of unidentified specimens - particularly things like fish rays - and for this to be of any statistical value, context-level integrity of the assemblage would be crucial.

Personally, I would argue that while every case is obviously different, the ideal strategy in a given situation (short of complete retention, obviously) is likely to entail a combination of these approaches: retention of everything from a sample of contexts, and of a sample of "good" specimens from the remainder. Such a strategy could get very complicated very fast, however, making it absolutely imperative that a detailed explanation be lodged in the archive (with back-ups elsewhere) where it cannot be missed by any visiting researcher. I know this should be obvious, but my experience is that past retention strategies are often anything but transparent.

Finally, the - regrettable - fact that this discussion is necessary also underlines the value of publishing one's raw data (something that I've personally been woefully remiss about, but intend to work on). Inadequate as it may be, there is a very real chance that one's database will someday represent the only record of at least part of each assemblage. If the database dies with the analyst then there will be no record at all.

Best,
David


Dear All,
     I have been fighting the destruction of the collections at my museum for 10 years. Unfortunately, now in Hungary, even that holy grail of archaeology, pottery, is being discarded after analysis. Once thing, however, gives me pause though is in all this discussion of 'sampling'. Once in the stores, the assemblages do not automatically become 'good samples' of anything if the initial retrieval from the site during excavation did not involve screening or flotation.   The so-called carefully  'hand-gathered'   materials may still faintly resemble the original bone assemblage in the ground. However, in Hungary  most rescue operations do NOT employ any of these methods. So, what really do the faunal assemblages here represent?
     The barbarians have breached the gates in Hungary (and in many other places I suspect). Simply there is no money for new facilities - there may not even be land to re-bury the finds, although I like the idea of using an engraved stone to  identify the finds in case someone wants to retrieve them. As a pragmatist facing a situation where there is an absence of a good financial background for archaeology in general - surely it is better to strive to the next to the last drop of blood  to keep bone assemblages (and all other kinds of archaeological assemblages) intact in stores but have a sensible back-up plan when the gun is placed to our heads?
 
Alice 


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Umberto Albarella <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I think that many of the comments that have been posted in response to Rob's email highlight a point that I have tried to make for many years - the concept of 'preservation by record' is  a fraud. Although I fully accept that limited storage space represents a genuine problem and that difficult decisions may have to be taken regarding the keeping of archaeological material, we should not delude ourselves by claiming that, having the material been studied, its potential has been exhausted. Not only new techniques and methods emerge all the time but, even if we consider a more or less standard zooarchaeological analysis, the concept that different researchers will provide the same results is misguided. One of the beauties of zooarchaeology is that it is a highly creative field and our approach to the material will reflect our interests, research questions and methods. Not everything will be recorded, not all aspects will be fully explored and new avenues of investigation are left for other researchers to explore. Far from being a limitation of our work this provides endless opportunities, which are going to be suppressed by the disposal of the material.

If a museum can no longer keep an assemblage, the possibility that academic departments could inherit it - to use it for teaching purposes - should be considered. There may also be opportunities for the assemblage to be maintained in its original conditions so that is will remain available for further study.
            
Cheers,
Umberto
 


On 22 October 2013 09:55, Robert Symmons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear All

Like much of the country, museums here in Sussex are suffering from an acute lack of storage space. In an attempt to alleviate this problem Sussex Museums Group (in consultation with the planning authority, local specialists and commercial units) is keen to limit the volume of material that is entering museum stores from developer-funded excavations. We are facing the prospect of making some very difficult decisions and I do not ask the following question lightly:

What animal bone from developer-funded excavations could justifiably be disposed of following analysis, rather than being deposited at a museum?

Of course we understand that the answer is not as simple as the question, but we hope to synthesise specialist opinion into some guidance that can be rolled out across the county. Sadly, keeping everything is not an option at this stage.

All the best
Rob

Rob Symmons
Secretary, Sussex Museums Group.



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