Dear all,
aside of the copyright and other legal and financial aspects, there is another reason why it’s better to contact the author directly, when looking for a publication. It’s called human contact. Imagine: a conversation could arise about what you are studying and why you think the contribution of your colleague is worthwhile reading. Both partners will benefit from this. It will eventually lead to an exchange of more information than you had hoped for, and that you knew that existed. In some cases, it will lead to something known as ‘cooperation’. I’ve tried it several times myself, it takes a bit of time, but it works! J
all the best,
Anton
PS: @Kyra, nothing personal, of course!
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Van: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Namens Kyra Lyublyanovics
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Onderwerp: Re: [ZOOARCH] article request (thanks in advance)
Dear All,
I think Greg brought up an important point that we all have to take into consideration in the future. It would be useful if the Zooarch community had an agreed-upon policy for sharing papers via e-mail. Although sometimes this is the only way for us to get the information we need for our research, it is also our interest to keep the few publishing houses that produce top quality volumes up and running.
best regards,
Kyra
On 15 October 2013 16:26, Terry O'Connor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Greg raises a good point regarding copyright, and someone out there may have a sensible answer. Most of us are not at all concerned if a colleague passes a pdf of one of our papers to a third party - in fact, I take it as a compliment! However, the publishers concerned may take a different view, and different publishers of edited volumes and journals have quite different policies. I have not come across an example (yet) but is it at least a theoretical possibility that Elsevier, Springer or one of the other biggies could threaten action against someone who, with the best of intentions, passes on a copy of a paper or monograph contribution to a colleague? Some of them certainly restrict the linking of pdf copies from websites.
Incidentally, it was Pierre-Joseph Proudhon who coined (in French) "Property is theft", not Marx. It is in his 1840 riveting best-seller What is Property?
Terry
Terry O'Connor
Professor of Archaeological Science
Department of Archaeology, University of York
Biology S Block, Heslington,
York YO10 5DD
On 15 October 2013 15:12, GREG CAMPBELL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Kyra: Wim van Neer is alive, well, living and working in Belgium, and very cooperative. Whether he will remain cooperative with the rest of us depends on how much trouble we zooarchers cause him by illegally circulating material written by him but under copyright protection. Yes, I know, 2005 seems a long time ago for many of us (but not for all of us). I also agree that information is "the new property" (in that, if Marx was still alive, he'd say keeping it is theft). But, we do have valid signed contracts with our publishers that got our research published in the first place.
Even more personally in this cash-short time, many of us want to know (or need to tell our funding bodies/employers to keep our jobs/ get promoted) how often and where our stuff is being used.
Please be polite. Ask directly first.
Greg Campbell
The Naïve Chemist
From: Kyra Lyublyanovics <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 October 2013, 14:43
Subject: [ZOOARCH] article request (thanks in advance)
Dear colleagues,
does anyone have this paper in pdf?
Udrescu, M. and Van Neer, W., 2005 'Looking for human therapeutic intervention in the healing of fractures of domestic animals', in J. Davies, M. Fabiš, I. Mainland, M. Richards and R. Thomas (eds), Diet and Health in Past Animal Populations: Current Research and Future Directions. Oxford: Oxbow. 24-33.
If I receive it I'll be happy to share it with anyone who would like a copy.
Thank you in advance!
best,
Kyra
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Kyra Lyublyanovics
zooarchaeologist
Central European University, Department of Medieval Studies
1051 Budapest
Nádor u. 9
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Kyra Lyublyanovics
zooarchaeologist
Central European University, Department of Medieval Studies
1051 Budapest
Nádor u. 9