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Hi Paula,
 
It must be very frustrating for you to try to help an individual who doesn’t seem open to help... Sad smile It’s difficult to know what exactly she expects from you with no formal referral so no one to report back to and further restriction with asking that you involve no one outside either... Unfortunately sometimes I think we just need to realise we can’t ‘fix’ everything...
 
Roberta
 
 
 
From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Paula Highton
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Fwd: [OCC-HEALTH] Difficulties with HR
 

Thank you so much to everyone who responded. I really appreciate it. Great advice as always.

 

I think that ‘perceived advocacy’ issue was a potential problem which we have dealt with quite quickly. Unfortunately this is a self-referral which makes it more difficult as she doesn’t want help from anyone outside of the company either. The company doesn’t currently operate within the stress management standards or even have a policy on Stress management and I think we need to start pushing for this a little harder.

 

Thanks again.

 

Paula

 

From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of sharon naylor
Sent: 29 October 2013 18:20
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Fwd: [OCC-HEALTH] Difficulties with HR

 

I think a key issue here is how the employee came to you in the first place. Is it as a result of a self or management referral and are you expected to feed back to anyone?
 
If its a self referral then all the comments below useful, in addition I would say that the company must have a grievance/mediation policy that she should explore for management channels through which to take her concerns. fact is that she needs to voice her concerns to someone other than OH if a solution needs to be forthcoming. Perceived advocacy is something (in my view, and I`m not saying that this is happening here) that should be avoided in such situations to maintain the integrity and reputation of the OH dept
 
If its as a result of a management referral and feedback from OH required then its the usual recommendation for stress RA, and maybe mention that "mediation or other management processes may be more useful than clinical intervention at this present time"  to take the case forward.
 
As we all know -  only having one side of a story can be misleading, it may well be that the manager in question has valid issues with the employees performance and we all need to be very clear that we are not "taking sides" as could lead to all sorts of difficulties in the future and may even backfire
 


Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:30:30 +0000
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Fwd: [OCC-HEALTH] Difficulties with HR
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I have included the link for ACAS which could assist mediation

 

 

 

 

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From: Iain Dunkley <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Difficulties with HR

Date: 29 October 2013 14:24:53 GMT

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Hi Paula,
Where I have had union-less employees who need good, independant employment advice in the past I have found that Citizens Advice have been very good. In one case actually sourced apropriate presentation for attendance at some difficult meetings.
Hope this is of some help.
Iain

 


From: Paula Highton <[log in to unmask]>;
To: <[log in to unmask]>;
Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Difficulties with HR
Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 1:40:07 PM

 

Good afternoon lovely list.

 

I would really value your opinion and advice. An HR administrator is exhibiting some clinical symptoms associated with stress/anxiety due to her relationship with her manager and expressed that her manager is making her feel, undervalued, and making suggestions about her competence and has gone as far as discussing capability with her. The HR manager has a habit of making her staff very unhappy and they have quite a high turnover. If what the administrator says is true it would appear that the manager is trying to push her out.

 

The HR manager answers directly to the CEO.

 

Anyway, my question is how would you advise the administrator to deal with her issues? She isn’t in a union. Her colleague isn’t supportive and her manager runs HR. She doesn’t want to go to the CEO as it seems her manager has been telling him that she isn’t good enough. I would prefer to deal with things in house but I need to make sure that this woman is given the right advice and support.

 

Paula

 

 


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