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Hi Simon, http://ctgr2.free.fr/netSongs/flame-songs.htm also, ths is great: http://www.eddostern.com/video/BestFlamewarEver_EddoStern_Med.mov +++++++++++++++ all, I'm enjoying the discussion. I fell into everything around 1997, from Fairhope, Alabama, US (a particular flavor of "south"). My progression was from cracking/hacking > experimental web design > net art. experimental web design lists/boards/communities: Josh Davis's dreamless.org board http://altsense.net/ k10k these communities eventually led to my participation at/on/in/with rhizome. ///////////////////////////////// I really relate to the idea that everyone participating is having their own deeply contingent, idiosyncratic experience that a mere email archive will never fully reflect. I remember arguing with nn or integer at one point. I was arguing that there was ultimately some sort of biological bottom-line that grounded online experience, and they countered (in cryptic code poetry) that she had gotten to the place where she no longer had to eat food. I remember mowing my lawn mulling over that one -- I could feel mental knots reluctantly loosening. /////////////////////////////// Here are a some of my own archival things -- from rhizome (subsequently typeset by my friend Mike Cina): http://www.lab404.com/plotfracture/cina/ (click on image to proceed) from the last rhizome flame war i ever had [2008] (blogily memorialized by my friendly interlocutor): http://www.tommoody.us/archives/2008/07/02/exorcism/ from dreamless.org: http://rhizome.org/artbase/artwork/2261/ and, for fun: http://lab404.com/rhizome/ Best, Curt On Oct 6, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Simon Biggs wrote: > I remember somebody wrote and performed a sort of pop-song about listserv flame wars - where the lyrics consisted of quotes from emails. Not sure who did that bit it would have been in the mid to late 1990's. Can anyone remember? > > best > > Simon