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Hey everybody, if anyone would like to write an article about it, I would be happy to publish it in one of the next on curating issues! Best, D -- Dr. Dorothee Richter Head of Postgraduate Program in Curating Institute Cultural Studies in the Arts Zurich University of the Arts Hafnerstr. 31 8005 Zürich Skype: dorothee.richter www.curating.org study program www.on-curating.org webjournal www.curatingdegreezero.org archive 0041 76 23 45 372 0049 15 73 97 15 840 Am 05.10.13 22:51 schrieb "roger malina" unter <[log in to unmask]>: >colleagues > >great discussions- ray lauzzana brought his enewsletter fineartforum >to leonardo i think in 1984 >judy malloy started curating Words on Works in Leonardo Journal and >in 1988, became the >coordinating editor of FineArt Forum under the Leonardo publishing >umbrella and developed >F. A. S. T. (Fine Art Science and Technology), a resource on theThe >WELLbulletin board >Judy was the initial editor of Leonardo Electronic News, 19911993, >now Leonardo Electronic Almanac.. She also wrote the >Leonardo Book on Women Art and Technology. The Well was very present= >as were the networks around Mondo 2000 >which started in 1984 i think also= R.U Sirius is working on a a >history. Carl Loeffler and Roy Ascott Guest edited the >Leonardo issue on Art and Interactive Telecommunications in 1991 > >the LEA archives are at from 1993 on >http://www.leoalmanac.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/LEA-v1n11.pdf >a historical review by craig harris is available at >http://www.leoalmanac.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/20_LEA_Vol_17_No_1_Ha >rris.pdf > >the artists were incredibly early adopters and indeed their >contributions are often written out > >roger > >On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, © Robbins <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> Indeed ... and with that in mind please also keep in mind his >>co-director / partners in this endeavor, Nancy Frank, who was all so >>important to the programming and curation of ARTCOM during those years. >>There was also Darlene Tong and another woman who joined the staff in >>the 80's whose name escapes me at the moment. I'm certain someone is >>familiar with this gang! >> >> All best, >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 5, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Rudolf Frieling wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> it's great to see Carl Loeffler remembered, and his work for La >>>Mamelle and ArtCom. He's not forgotten as this fairly recent show here >>>at the California College of Art manifests. >>> God Only Knows Who the Audience Is: Performance, Video, and Television >>>Through the Lens of La Mamelle / ART COM >>> >>> http://www.wattis.org/exhibitions/god-only-knows-who-audience >>> >>> There is also a publication! >>> Best, >>> Rudolf >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Curating digital art - www.crumbweb.org >>>[[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Simon Biggs >>>[[log in to unmask]] >>> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 3:42 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] fineArt forum >>> >>> ArtCom has been mentioned - but Carl Loeffler hasn't (or Fred Truck). >>>Nor has Judith Hoffberg, who founded Umbrella in San Francisco >>>(associated with La Mamelle), a publication and platform for artist's >>>books and mail art - eg: Eugenio Dittborn, etc - which Carl was also >>>involved with and which probably offered a partial conceptual lead into >>>ArtCom. ICT, as we now know it, has it's roots in two distinct domains >>>- computing and communications. In our histories of internet (and other >>>technological forms of) art we tend to overlook the important work done >>>in the latter domain. Artists like Dittborn were very important in >>>developing the conceptual and artistic strategies, through their work >>>with low-band media like postcards, xerox and airmail envelopes, >>>required for working with early digital telecommunications. Dittborn's >>>low-band strategy was a necessity as he was based in Chile during the >>>Pinochet regime's worst activities, when many artists were suppressed >>>(or worse). Like a lot of mail-art, Dittborn's was an aesthetic of >>>resistance in the context of politically enforced attenuation (I saw a >>>show of his at the Experimental Art Foundation, in Adelaide, in around >>>1980 which was just terrific, an eye opener). Whilst the situation on >>>the US West Coast in the 1970's and 80's was very different to that in >>>Chile there were similarities, with sub-cultural trends seeking >>>alternate modes for representation and communication. This is valuable >>>history - it's good to understand the context in which artists work. >>> >>> ArtCom officially went live in 1986 - so perhaps not as early as we >>>might think. It only pre-dates FAF by a year or so. I remember (poorly) >>>getting drunk with Carl (and Roy Ascott) in the back of the Van Gogh TV >>>bus at the European Media Art Festival in 1988. At that time I'd >>>thought ArtCom had been around for years... >>> >>> There was a discussion of Carl's work on Nettime in March 2001, >>>shortly after his death (Judith died in 2009). You can search for >>>Carl's name in the threads here: >>> >>>http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-bold-0103/threads.html#003 >>>86 >>> It was noted at that time (by Robin Murphy, aka 'murph the surf') that >>>people like Loeffler were being written out of the mainstream histories >>>of media arts practice... "Me thinks a great many names are in the >>>process of being "expunged" right now by American art museums, >>>galleries and magazines as they write the history of "art in a >>>technological age..." " >>> http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-bold-0103/msg00372.html >>> >>> There's a piece on Carl by Judy Malloy here: >>> http://www.well.com/user/jmalloy/artcom.html >>> >>> The only obit. I can find is here: >>> http://www.artscope.net/NEWS/new02132001-9.shtml >>> >>> Fred Truck is still active. >>> >>> best >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> On 5 Oct 2013, at 10:15, Paul Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> This is becoming a fascinating conversation and I'm just butting in >>>>to mention the e-zine fineArt forum which is an online historical >>>>resource that I know many of you will know about but some may not. >>>> >>>> Founded by Ray Lauzzana in 1987 as a bulletin board and email >>>>newsletter it became a Gopher in 1992 (sadly all lost I think) and >>>>moved to the web in 1994. The most complete archive is held by the >>>>National Library of Australia here: >>>> >>>> http://pandora.nla.gov.au/tep/11009 >>>> >>>> Š and the Computer Arts Society (CAS) are hoping to include a more >>>>substantial archive in their historical section that is currently >>>>being developed. >>>> >>>> Also - I've not followed all the posts as I'm currently on the road) >>>>but has anyone talked about Carl Leoffler's ArtCom which was on the >>>>Well from the 1980's (it certainly pre-dates fineArt forum). >>>> >>>> And also - on the fax front there the work of Art Reseaux (Karen >>>>O'Rourke) which is later but, for me at least, very interesting. >>>> >>>> OK! 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