I think others may have seen what I have seen, or rather read into it., it is the number of 'authoritative' posts that are emanating from a candidate in the election. A bit like being able to afford TV ads, that others cant.
Shall we all have a lie down and then get on with something else.
I am afraid my other life (Business orientates), is a lot more open and rough and tumble, I shall refrain from posting and upsetting people around the world.
Peace and joy be with you
f
From: Phil Bradley [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 30 October 2013 11:47
To: Frances Hendrix
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Subject: Re: The battle of the conferences: What game is this? Which will you go to?
You're clearly reading an entirely different posting than I am Frances. I didn't see anything in John's posting that came from anything other than the public domain. I suppose that you could argue that he attending an event that other people didn't - but I'm sure that they're all perfectly capable of attending events as they wish.
I fail to see anything there that isn't a 'level playing field [with] same access to information'. Could you tell me what I have missed please?
Phil.
On 30 October 2013 11:35, Frances Hendrix <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Sorry Sheila
I think it is a miss use of his position
It should be a level playing field for all. Same access to information for all etc.
f
From: Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Sheila Corrall
Sent: 29 October 2013 17:14
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Subject: Re: The battle of the conferences: What game is this? Which will you go to?
Comments about John's sudden rush to participate in this list are ill-informed. He has been a member of this list for years, and has contributed to many worthwhile conversations in the past. Standing for council should not mean opting out of public discussion fora in the run-up to the elections.
Sheila
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On 29 October 2013 12:34, Frances Hendrix <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
I think many of us have been intrigued by John's sudden rush to publish, and off line have already emailed him about this. He is In a privileged position in having information and access other candidates may not have.
I am sorry that his emails are so obvious and I don't think many people will not see the connection . It is a shame and I don't disagree with Charles's comments at all.
John, refrain now and save your dignity
f
From: Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of CHARLES OPPENHEIM
Sent: 29 October 2013 10:15
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: The battle of the conferences: What game is this? Which will you go to?
I said it before, and I say it again, that I WELCOME John's contributions, and my earlier e mail expressed an (implied) hope that long will they continue.
There is no on-going argument over the name CILIP, as that debate was finished by the members' vote.
I also have no on-going feud with John. For the record, I emailed him after the AGM to congratulate him on the way he chaired the AGM. And our face to face conversations have always been professional and cordial.
I would have made exactly the same cynical comment if any other candidate for election had suddenly burst into activity on this list.
I have too much time on my hands and am an old cynic. I plead guilty to those charges.
Charles
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2013, 10:03
Subject: Re: The battle of the conferences: What game is this? Which will you go to?
What a truly pointless and passive aggressive email. I'm disappointed, Charles, I didn't realise you were the Lord of the Jiscmail. Do people now have to justify how often they post and why they are posting? This CILIP argument needs to be put to bed now because it's getting boring and people are trying to move on from it. If you and John want to continue your on-going feud, please do it between your own private email addresses and leave the rest of us out of it.
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From: Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of CHARLES OPPENHEIM
Sent: 29 October 2013 09:53
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: The battle of the conferences: What game is this? Which will you go to?
Whilst it is very welcome that John has suddenly started frequently contributing to this forum, the cynic in me wonders if this burst of activity is in any way linked to any forthcoming elections. Perhaps John could reassure us that his activity on this forum will continue for years to come?
Charles
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From: John Dolan <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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Sent: Monday, 28 October 2013, 21:55
Subject: The battle of the conferences: What game is this? Which will you go to?
Apologies for cross-posting
Dear all
Sign up for the Speak Up for Libraries Conference at CILIP (23/11) for a "Now or Never" agenda to save public library services from being dismantled. Now, on Monday before (18/11), is the ACE conference on/for volunteer-led libraries<http://bit.ly/17mtizZ>! Brian Ashley for ACE speaks at both but the two conferences clearly have divergent aims.
* SUFL<http://www.speakupforlibraries.org/index.asp> argues for local authorities fulfil their legal obligation to provide a comprehensive and efficient service and for Government to superintend and intervene as the law requires. CILIP is a partner in the SUFL coalition
* The conference on/for volunteer-led (new name!) libraries<http://m.artsjobs.org.uk/index.php?id=25&ne_post_id=113353?id=25&ne_post_id=113353> does not involve a speaker from CILIP - counter-productive? This conference is "To *establish the emerging role* of community led libraries and to provide an opportunity for networking, communication and the generation of new ideas"
CILIP's role is "working to advocate strongly, provide unity through shared values and develop skills and excellence". Its role is supporting, enabling and accrediting the learning of library, information and knowledge workers in public, private, third sector and Government (sic) library and information services.
The ACE conference seeks to network volunteers so experience can be shared by people in pretty isolated circumstances where libraries are experiencing disparate support from their erstwhile parent local authority. A more realistic picture of the situation for volunteer-led libraries is set told in this description http://bit.ly/1g59DHn from Dorset in Public Libraries News.
Public libraries are suffering from pervasive cuts, dismantling the service from within, compounded by closures, while reduced staff run professional quality programmes and engage with their communities in the remainder.
Last weekend, at CILIP's Youth Libraries Group I saw librarians who were full of tangible skill and endless energy. The Carnegie and Kate Greenaway award winners<http://www.carnegiegreenaway.org.uk/2013awards/> Levi Pinfold and Sally Gardener with guest author Tony Robinson spoke informedly and passionately of the benefits of skilled staff.
These librarians, mainly school and public librarians are skilled in working with children and young people, understanding literature and reading, and nurturing others' imagination and confidence. They go way beyond "running a library". They change lives.
Now we have two conferences at either end of the same week, at opposite ends of the country, looking for participants. They will probably focus on cuts, closures and coping and tactics for survival. So no, there won't be time to develop the public libraries' huge contribution to resolving
* the recent OECD report on the car crash that is UK Illiteracy
* the outcomes of reading for inspiration seen in research commissioned by CILIP and Carnegie Trust<http://www.carnegieuktrust.org.uk/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=24ce19a4-4ea3-4fb3-a1d8-3e5493bbe3ac> through the CKG Awards Shadowing project
* failure to provide a school library in every school with consistent access
* the urgent need to help people use the Internet when Government and public services are going digital
* how Information Literacy and Information Management are crucial to education and the economy - two priorities for CILIP later this year - yet the UK fails to develop these as we have failed on print literacy
* the need to ensure unfettered democratic access to Internet networks and global communications through public libraries and academic institutions
These essential policy areas might be overlooked while two unconnected conferences deal with the consequences of current policy and how to "run public libraries" in the country that invented the idea!
John
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