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Hello to everybody, Alex, it was a great idea to initiate the conversation sending congratulations to our colleagues ! Bob, it was another great idea, when congratulating the Winners, to remind us of the framework. As one of my colleagues pointed out, we shall also give a lot of credits to Shneior Lifson who was in the very origins of these works, ideas and programs (see the paper by M.Levitt "The birth of computational structural biology", Nature Structural & Molecuar Biology, 8, 392-393 (2001); http://www.nature.com/nsmb/journal/v8/n5/full/nsb0501_392.html ). Older crystallographers may remember a fundamental paper by Levitt & Lifson (1969). With best wishes, Sacha Urzhumtsev -----Message d'origine----- De : CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part de Sweet, Robert Envoyé : mercredi 9 octobre 2013 23:52 À : [log in to unmask] Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] השב: [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel committee decision? It deserves comment!! I've been too busy talking with my friends about it to think of CCP4. This morning on NPR I heard Karplus's name and started to whoop and holler, and by the time they got to Arieh I realized they had a Hat Trick!! It's a spectacular thing that this field should get recognition! An interesting feature to me is that, at least when I was following the field, these three use physics to do their work, modeling with carefully estimated spring constants, etc., and eventually QM results. Those who use phenomenology -- hydrophobic volumes, who likes to lie next to whom, etc. -- are extremely effective (you know who they are), and they deserve credit. But they (we, some years ago) stand on the shoulders of the achievements of these three. It's good to remember the late, great, Tony Jack, cut down before reaching his prime. Bob ________________________________________ From: CCP4 bulletin board [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Nat Echols [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:31 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] השב: [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel committee decision? Levitt also contributed to DEN refinement (Schroder et al. 2007, 2010). -Nat On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Boaz Shaanan <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Good point. Now since you mentioned contributions of the recent Nobel laureates to crystallography Mike Levitt also had a significant contribution through the by now forgotten Jack-Levitt refinement which to the best of my knowledge was the first time that x-ray term was added to the energy minimization algorithm. I think I'm right about this. This was later adapted by Axel Brunger in Xplor and other progrmas followed. Cheers, Boaz -------- הודעה מקורית -------- מאת Alexander Aleshin <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> תאריך: 10/10/2013 0:07 (GMT+02:00) אל [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> נושא [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel committee decision? Sorry for a provocative question, but I am surprised why nobody comments/congratulations laureates with regard to recently awarded Nobel prizes? However, one of laureates in chemistry contributed to a popular method in computational crystallography. CHARMM -> XPLOR -> CNS -> PHENIX->… Alex Aleshin