Ooh and as mentioned before there is the depiction laid out in Boessneck which is depicted in Ekstrom, but also here: GUINTARD, C. 1999. On the size of the Ure-Ox or Aurochs (Bos primigenius Bojanus, 1827). In: WENIGER, G.-C. (ed.) Archäologie und Biologie des Auerochsen. Mettmann: Neanderthal Museum.7-20 There are also a couple of other depictions in this same paper which might be worth checking out. From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask] Subject: RE: [ZOOARCH] Aurochs - Past, present and future. Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:12:56 +0100 Hi Jacqui, A while ago I was contacted by an artist who was trying to reconstruct the aurochs and I gave him some advice and sent him some measurements. I think he did quite a good job, although I can't seem to find the image that he completed online anymore. His e-mail address is: [log in to unmask] (his name is Tom Hammond). Apart from that the most plain one I have found is the one off this website: http://animalblawg.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/the-return-of-the-aurochs-along-with-some-baggage/ I don't know very much about the Heck brothers, but I know that there are currently a group based in the Netherlands who want to do a similar thing.. I'm not sure about articulated aurochs skeletons in your part of the world. There is one in the zoology museum in Cambridge but I think that's the only one I have seen in the UK. Have you checked with the Newport Museum that they don't have the famous 'Alice' skeleton on display? I haven't been there but I know its a fairly complete skeleton. I'm really glad that you wrote that piece about Beasts of the Southern Wild. I really enjoyed the film but came away feeling a little frustrated because their aurochs was so unlike an aurochs! They even had it eating meat! Lizzie Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:33:29 +0100 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: [ZOOARCH] Aurochs - Past, present and future. To: [log in to unmask] Hello, just a quick couple of questions 1. Does anyone know of any good accounts of the Heck Brothers work 'recreating' the aurochs in germany?2. Where near to Cardiff/Bristol are any mounted aurochs skeletons?3. Any good images of an aurochs, all I can find are either historic or mildly hysterical! I visited Berlin zoo in the early 80s and saw some giant cattle (were they Heck brother aurochs) which made a great impression on me. I recently wrote a brief piece on aurochs for the film Beast of the Southern Wild. and as a result National Geographic have been in touch as they are interested in making a program on the Heck brothers. http://cardiffsciscreen.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/aurochs-little-below-elephant-in-size.html (by the way first image is poss a bison! - next time check the images that get posted...) Cheers for any information. Jacqui Mulville (PhD), Reader in Bioarchaeology Chair of the Undergraduate Board of Studies Tel: + 44 (0) 29 2087 4247 Public Engagement and STEM Ambassador http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhOIbvYpKhE Social Media http://www.facebook.com/GuerillaArchaeology/ or http://www.facebook.com/CORGROUP, guerillaarchaeology.wordpress.com, Flickr guerilla_archaeology, twitter @GuerillaArchae School of History, Archaeology and Religion, Cardiff University, CF10 3EU