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Dear Chris,

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:04:13 -0600, Chris Madan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Thanks again for the responses!
>
>On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Christian Gaser <
>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Chris,
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:36:34 -0600, Chris Madan <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks Christian!
>> >
>> >Two more questions, if you don't mind:
>> >
>> >(1) If a cluster is significant at p<.05-FWE, without TFCE, is it fair to
>> >assume that it should still be significant with the TFCE? From my
>> >understanding of the TFCE, anything that is already significant with TFCE
>> >should still be significant, but previously subthreshold, but broad,
>> >clusters can be 'enhanced' by the TFCE to also be significant (e.g., Smith
>> >& Nichols, 2009, Fig 1, seems to show this). However, I have a contrast
>> >that has some suprathreshold clusters at p<.05-FWE (no TFCE), but with the
>> >TFCE nothing is significant at even p<.001-uncorrected. Does this sound
>> >plausible...? (It may be of relevance, I did not scan the whole brain in
>> >this study, but only a slab.)
>> If you use very low initial voxel thresholds (e.g. P<0.05 uncorrected) it
>> often happens that you obtain a few very large clusters that are
>> significant at the cluster level after correction for multiple comparisons.
>> In that case TFCE may not result in any significant results, because the
>> initial voxel threshold is too low.
>>
>
>This makes sense to me, but I am still not clear on how/if results voxels
>that are significant at p<.05 with FWE correction are no longer significant
>at even a lenient threshold of p<.001, uncorrected, after the TFCE is
>applied. I guess my question is more of, "is something not working
>correctly, or is this something that would be expected.

In that case I need to see the results in the glass brain to get an idea whether this is correct or not.

Best,

Christian
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >(2) Is it possible to do the TFCE with a small volume correction? I
>> >understand that this may not be currently implemented since the TFCE
>> >distribution is based on the scanned area, and this distribution would
>> then
>> >need to only be based on the SVC area.
>> You can apply SVC if you replace your mask.img/hdr file with a new mask
>> defining your SVC-ROI. I will try to implement this in the new TFCE toolbox
>> release.
>>
>
>Great, thanks for pointing this out!
>
>~ Chris
>