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Mark: You said: “…I didn't spend 6 years at design school for a sociologist or historian to come along and call themselves a designer.” Here you are touching on important and not new issues of the open marketplace more so than of this closed list. I would certainly encourage you to join those of us who do engage in the many, many open marketplace discussions in addition to those taking place internally here. I am sure you must be aware that many open marketplace discussion groups now exist and what goes on there often has important ramifications for your statement. The future of practice depends much more so on those external conversations, some might call them necessary battles, than anything going on internally here. Someone should be honest with you….The argument that is implied by your statement has already been lost over the course of the last ten years. I certainly encourage educators to be more up front and honest with students about that loss. You might personally revisit it but you would be fighting an uphill battle at this point. The everyone-is-a designer wave is now deeply entrenched across many fields of practice. There has been little coherent defense mounted and or presented externally in the open marketplace by the design education community. Missing-in-action is an often-used description of what went down. As a practitioner who just invested 6 years at a design school you will now find yourself to be on your on when it comes to engaging outside this list on such issues. The design education leadership community has mounted no unified strategy for addressing the very issue that you raise in your comments and that has been the case for at least ten years. I would be happy to talk with you more off list. ... GK VanPatter Co-Founder Humantific SenseMaking for ChangeMaking NEW YORK / MADRID 6 West 18th Street, 9th Floor New York City, NY 10011 T: 212-660-2577 http://www.humantific.com NEWSLETTER: Subscribe to Humantific Quarterly Follow Humantific on twitter: http://twitter.com/humantific ... On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Mark Evans wrote: > Professor Ranjan/Don/Terry/Soo > > Thank you for the prompt replies. > > > > Professor Ranjan > > I look forward to seeing the case studies on the web site in support of your comments > > > > Terry > > Systems thinking is a new one on me and thanks for the lead. > > > > Don > > You need to pack so just a brief reply..... I accept that the ability to design can be seen as a generic human capability but, the big question is, whether or not trained/experienced designers are more capable at employing design thinking as an approach to problem solving. They're certainly more capable at visualising thoughts through images which appears to make a significant contribution to effective design thinking. I'd also argue that experienced designers have their brains wired in a certain way that maximises the way they operate as 'design thinkers'. But I'm a designer and design educator so I guess I would say that. > > > > Soo > > "Is design thinking a certain thinking, so that when one has it, one is then a designer". That's a great question, but I didn't spend 6 years at design school for a sociologist or historian to come along and call themselves a designer. > > > > Thanks > > Mark Evans > Designer/designeur > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Evans [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 16 August 2013 14:49 > To: [log in to unmask] > Cc: Mark Evans > Subject: Re: Design Thinking Unique to Design? > > David > > Thank you for your post for which I have been awaiting responses to some of the questions with great anticipation. Despite this being a hot topic on the List, I have been disappointed that you have not received any replies to any of your questions. > > I am afraid that I cannot answer your questions as, on a personal level, ’the jury is out’ as to what design thinking is and how it impacts on education and practice (design and/or beyond). In fact, to help me get my head around the issue I have had to recruit a PhD student and would like to take this opportunity to thank members of the List (academics and practitioners) who have been very gracious in responding to his requests for interviews. The responses collated to date indicate both consensus and conflict. > > By replying to your post, I hope to rekindle your questions which I have slightly re-phrased and those marked with an asterisk being of particular interest to myself: > > 1. How do you develop capability in design thinking? > > 2. How do you know when someone does or does not have capability as a design thinker? > > 3. Is design thinking a purely innate and intuitive capacity that you have or do not have?* > > 4. Is design thinking something that can be taught, developed and even assessed? > > 5. Can we legitimately say it is unique to the field and can we prove it by being able to specify and isolate what it is as > well as being able to articulate a specific pedagogical approach for its development?* > > Thanks > > Dr Mark Evans > Reader in Industrial Design > Design Practice Research Group Leader > Loughborough Design School > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------