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Hi Mark, Great idea! Professional of designers seems the way to go! Let me see if I understand this right. So when designers are professionalised they will (as all other professionals) be legally and financially responsible for the outcomes of their work? For example, if a book designer is asked to produce a new book cover that will increase sales by 20% and it only increases by 12% then the designer will pay the publisher for the costs and the lost revenue? If a health promotion poster doesn't have the appropriate effects then the clients and users can sue the designer for costs and adverse health effects? People buying products inappropriately due to the advertising being open to 'misinterpretation' can sue the designers? Users of web pages that get infected by malware can sue the wbpage designers for any costs, ditto e.g. banks that get implicated? . Or perhaps designers will become financially and legally responsible also to their clients as well as users? Professionalisation of designers also includes ethics and the responsibility to whistleblow about any other designers whose practices might be considered unethical (e.g. misleading visual rhetoric). This is the current real situation for professionalised engineering designers. It would be great to see it extended to other design fields. The insurance companies will love it and it will almost certainly be the death of small general purpose design agencies. Way to go! Best wishes , Terry --- Dr Terence Love PhD(UWA), BA(Hons) Engin. PGCEd, FDRS, AMIMechE, PMACM, MISI Director, Love Services Pty Ltd PO Box 226, Quinns Rocks Western Australia 6030 Tel: +61 (0)4 3497 5848 Fax:+61 (0)8 9305 7629 [log in to unmask] -- -----Original Message----- From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Evans Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013 5:16 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Design Thinking Unique to Design? Gunnar I'm only in the first 20 minutes of the revolution and the manifesto is still in its infancy. But, as a starting point, a 'designer' would need to have completed training in a discipline that was accredited by an appropriate professional body (of which there are many for the visually creative disciplines). I'd like to make it illegal to practice without said accreditation but that might be a little too draconian. Thanks Mark ________________________________________ From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Gunnar Swanson [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 22 August 2013 22:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Design Thinking Unique to Design? On Aug 22, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Mark Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > It saddens me that 'designer', like 'architect', is not a professional title protected by legislation (in the UK Under Section 20 of the Architects Act 1997). But, come the revolution for which I have just become its self-styled leader, one day, it may well be. Viva la revolution; viva le designeur!!! If "designer" were a professional designation protected by law: What would qualify one to be a lawful designer? What would be prohibited to a non-designer (i.e., what is the act of design that would be protected by the legislation)? Gunnar Gunnar Swanson East Carolina University graphic design program http://www.ecu.edu/cs-cfac/soad/graphic/index.cfm [log in to unmask] Gunnar Swanson Design Office 1901 East 6th Street Greenville NC 27858 USA http://www.gunnarswanson.com [log in to unmask] +1 252 258-7006 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------