Agreeing with Paul's response just now...and also, by continuing to provide therapy, when in fact many of these problems need to be addressed by government and society, it serves to continue the illusion/lie that people need to change the way they think, so we are propping up that lie.
Robert Newman (the comedian formerly of Newman and Baddiel) said it really well, via a character in his excellent book, The Fountain at the Centre of the World: 'It's easier and less costly to change the way people think about reality, than to change reality'. That says it perfectly as far as I'm concerned.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nicky Hartigan
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Politically neutral BBC as always...
But surely any psychologist or CBT practitioner is working with people to challenge the assumptions they may be making about having been made unemployed (ie "I've lost my job therefore I am useless") and is certainly not working to suggest that unemployment is not a problem which needs to be addressed by the government and society?
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Aug 2013, at 17:36, Jivan Mohanty <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Thank you Mike for that reference I will have a look; and I totally agree Penny. Having experienced only 4 group-sessions (not going for the remaining 2) of CBT around a year and a half ago I knew something was off with its very foundations. I am struggling to figure out how to approach the all pervasive advocacy and practice of CBT, not only in the welfare function of my University, but peers of mine. It's so frustrating because the people who advocate it are 'experts' and the peers who support it, support it exactly because it is advocated by 'experts' who are 'evidence-based', whatever that means.
On 8 August 2013 15:15, pennypriest <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
But that idea, about CBT being based not on events themselves but our interpretation of events, is precisely the very foundation of CBT. So it's not just BBC reporting which is the problem, but CBT itself...which has obviously been said many times.
On 2013-08-08 14:46, Michael Walton wrote:
Hi,
I just read the article myself and I share your concern. I'm
especially worried by "CBT is based on the idea that problems aren't
caused by situations themselves, but by how we interpret them in our
thoughts". This sentence alone is blaming the victim, and suggests
that situational factors do not matter. If an individual were
depressed because they were unemployed, helping them to reinterpret
their job hunt could help, but it won't improve the economy, make more
jobs or remove the competition.
Have you read much on critical health psychology? The area has some
interesting critical view points on 'mainstream' psychology.
Mike
On 8 Aug 2013, at 10:26, Jivan Mohanty <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/0/23590545
Is anyone at least in the slightest perturbed by the BBC's article above, and general orientation towards psychology, that uncritically advocates CBT? I don't even know who authored this article. How to even begin combatting this one-dimensional view of therapy that is being made/has been made hegemonic by the BBC and other news outlets?
___________________________________
There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask]
To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website:
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK
___________________________________
There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post
contact Grant [log in to unmask]
To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK
list, visit the website:
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK
___________________________________
There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask]
To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website:
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK
___________________________________ There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK
___________________________________ There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK
___________________________________
There is a twitter feed: http://twitter.com/CommPsychUK (to post contact Grant [log in to unmask]
To unsubscribe or to change your details on this COMMUNITYPSYCHUK list, visit the website:
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=COMMUNITYPSYCHUK
