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It is obvious that Julie has been having a tough time personally from the nature of her last few posts which speak of mental distress. I have e-mailed her a number of times asking if she wants to chat without reply. I have now deleted her from the list given the oblique nature of her posts which have no place on such a forum. However, I am surprised that people on here cannot see that these are cries rent of personal distress rather than some sort of incoherent homophobic rant. Dr Dave Green Senior Lecturer in Sociology, University of the West of England, Bristol, UK Society for the Academic Study of Magic (SASM): https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=653230719 ________________________________ From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ethan Doyle White [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 20 August 2013 11:47 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Magic, Polygamy and STIs in Scotland Hello all I fear I must echo the thoughts of Mr Winsdale on this issue. Ms MacLure's use of language had me a tad concerned, particularly with the "Whatever next?" comment, which reminded me a little too strongly of right-wing polemics in the Daily Mail. There is a major problem of societal stigma surrounding HIV + individuals both in this country and across the world that far too often leads to outright bigotry and persecution, so I would ask that contributors to this thread be cautious about the sort of language that they choose to use. I concur with Mogg that the subject can be of relevance to the academic study of magic, in that the threat of STIs (among them HIV/AIDS, but also many, many others) is often present in sex magic, but how that particularly pertains to the legal recognition of polygamy/polyamory in Scotland is a little beyond me. My best to all Ethan Doyle White http://ucl.academia.edu/EthanDoyleWhite > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:59:10 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Fwd: ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC Digest - 17 Aug 2013 to 18 Aug 2013 (#2013-154) > To: [log in to unmask] > > jason winslade et al > > There was an article on bbc site and a radio show > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23726120 > > Perhaps is within the remit if you think that magick often does > challenge existing mores re relationships perhaps through its practice > of sexual magick etc? > Sometimes is discussed in pagan literature ie Farrar's "Progressive > Witchcraft" - as to dangers of STDs etc - I agree tit isn't obvious how > that come into the equation. > > bb/93 > > Mogg > > > Can you link to this article? Is there any evidence that polygamous relationships "encourage AIDS and HIV"? I think you'd find a lot of people on this list would disagree with the assumption that non-monogamy leads to teetering on the brink of disaster. And how exactly is this a topic for this forum? > > > > > >