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Hi
An OP I worked with had the fab phrase that perceived stress is not a medical condition but is a mismatch between demand and perceived ability to cope. The mismatch is not always due to an underlying pre-existing illness but is more often situational e.g. workplace issues or family illness. The stress may result in symptoms that often are also situational e.g. becomes highly aroused when discussing/dealing directly with perceived stressor e.g. in GP surgery, dealing with workplace etc. This can also be anticipatory e.g. in the 24-48 hours before a meeting with management. Often the symptoms are absent away from the situation e.g. normal interaction with friends, family, social activities etc. In some cases the GP may medicate to help alleviate some of the symptoms e.g sleep aids, but the 'cure' is not medically orientated as this does not address the stressors....meditation won't stop you losing your house if can't pay mortgage but winning lottery will (an analogy I often use to employees).
So as Sharon says it comes down to what value you feel referral would add taking into account the substantial cost in money and time.
Carr
On Jul 3, 2013 9:35 AM, "Maguire, Kevin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> To call oneself an "occupational psychologist" is to say that one is registered with the Health Professions Council (see the meaning (and implications) of protected title on their web-site: http://www.hpc-uk.org/aboutregistration/protectedtitles/index.asp) Registration with the HPS is far from an automatic procedure.
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> That's helpful thanks.
> Can you confirm what you mean by "protected by law".
> Regards
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> Having done my Masters in Occ Psych, I would not presume to diagnose stress (even it is as plain as a pikestaff). I do use individual screening assessments but only to detect organisational levels of stress. Individual diagnosis of stress (where actually, the diagnosis is centred on anxiety and depression) is something that I'd leave up to the clin psych. Please also be aware that the title "occupational psychologist" is protected by law but that the title "occupational health psychologist" is not.
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> Kevin
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> Dr. Kevin MAGUIRE CPsychol MCIEH, Senior Lecturer, Division of Psychology, School of Social Sciences, Nottingham Trent University, Burton Street, Nottingham, NG1 4BU. UK. Telephone ++ 44 (0) 115 848 5540
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> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Debbie Rowe
> Sent: 02 July 2013 19:32
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> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Psychiatrist referral in work related stress?
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> Hi Roisin
> As part of my OH assessment I would initially use one of the tools to measure Depression/Anxiety/Stress.
> If the results indicate psychological concerns refer to GP for further diagnostics/ treatment.
> Alternatively OH psychologist.
> Debbie
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> On 2 Jul 2013, at 16:48, Roisin Smyth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> > Good afternoon all,
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> > When investigating reports of work related stress, I wondered if
> > anyone has referred the Employee to a Psychiatrist to evaluate if an underlying mental health diagnosable condition exists?
> >
> > In the same vein as we would perhaps refer someone with a reported
> > potentially work related skin problem to a Dermatologist to confirm or
> > rule out work relatedness, would anyone adopt the same approach with a
> > Psyche referral for work related stress? I'm not sure that in our culture this would take place, but I work for a US based company and this approach may be more common in the States than the UK, where going to see a Psychiatrist is not seen as a big deal.
> > I'm interested to know.
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> > If you have, I'd be glad to hear of the outcome and your opinions.
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> > Many thanks,
> > Roisin
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