Thanks Rowdy – very happy to have this shared with others.
Kind Regards
Lynne
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Lynne
Thanks for this. I'd like to add it to the SAS online library if that's OK with ATCA. The link in your mail was broken by a %20. This one will probably work better:
Rowdy Yates
Senior Research Fellow
Scottish Addiction Studies
University of Stirling
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On 10 Jun 2013, at 09:42 PM, "Lynne Magor-Blatch" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The Towards better Practice in Therapeutic Communities, which includes the
MEEQ is on the ATCA website -
http://www.atca.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Towards-Better-Practice-in
-Therapeutic-Communities.pdf
If this doesn't work as a link, go to the ATCA website - www.atca.com.au and
click on Resources - moving down the list you will see - Education and
Reviews, then click on -
Towards better practice in therapeutic communities, which is directly
underneath. This will take you to the document, which you can download.
These have now become known as the ATCA Essential Elements (ATCAEE) and form
the basis of the ATCA Standard.
Kind Regards
Lynne
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Lynne
Thanks for this. I will bear it in mind when we come to finalising the
rague programme. The MEEQ sounds really interesting. If you could send me
an electronic copy, I'll add it to the Instrument Bank in the SAS online
library.
R. Yates
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Scottish Addiction Studies
School of Applied Social Science
University of Stirling
Scotland
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Hi - a comment on TCs and other residetial rehabilitation services - as
some would know, we have completed the ATCA Standard and it is now going
through the process of certification so that it will be available under ISO
for bodies under licence (which ATCA retains) to be used in accreditation of
residetial services. In 2002 we modified the SEEQ to the Modified EEQ (MEEQ)
and they have since become known as ATCAEE. There are 13 indicators based on
the essential elements in the ATCA Standard. If you were operating as a good
resi rehab you would be expected to achieve 80 percent of criteria marked as
essential in criterion 1 - 6. If you are a TC you would be expected to
achieve 80 percent of all 13. The TC ones focus on Community as Method and
other elements we would expect of TCs. This way we have developed a quality
framework which governments can ask all residential services to undertake
and we use the ATCA Standard as peer review tool to help programs develop
into TCs and to move services from Provisional to Full Member status. Happy
to share some more about this in Prague. Lynne Sent from my BlackBerryR from
Optus
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Stan
I wasn't really envisaging any vetting process. If I was, I'd probably use
something like George De Leon's SEEQ to separate TCs from wannabe TCs. I
know that's occasionally an issue (at least in the UK) and I have sometimes
had some quite terse exchanges with 12-step residential services that have
wrongly (in my view) described themselves as TCs. But with articles in
peer-reviewed journals I don't think that question arises. Where articles
indicate that field sites were TCs or that the sample includes TC residents
or former TC residents, I would think to include them. Even if I disagreed
with the authors about whether these were genuinely TCs or not, the fact
would remain that they are part of the TC evidence base "out there". There
may be an argument for adding a comment that questioned the status - but
obviously that would turn what is already a big job into a massive one - and
as you know, I work pretty much single-handed and without a budget for this
stuff. There may be articles that don't specifically mention TCs but which
I know for one reason or another actually are TC-related. That would be
more of a judgement call and at this stage, I'm not sure how I would deal
with them and I'm open to suggestions.
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Scottish Addiction Studies
School of Applied Social Science
University of Stirling
Scotland
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Hi Rowdy,
Regarding collating articles on TCs, how strict will your definition be as
to what constitutes a TC? Will it include Christian Philosophy residential
rehabs?
Regards,
Stan.
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Hi All
1) I set this list up about 10 years ago and have been waiting for it to be
used for precisely this sort of debate/discussion. (If it had been a study,
the researchers would have concluded that there was NO EVIDENCE for lists
working in this way!!!!). So thanks to all of you who have joined in so far.
Patience is a great virtue I guess.
2) I'm not sure i know about the Campbell Collaboration - can someone help
me out with that.
3) George's idea for a forum sounds really good to me and I'll suggest it to
the Prague organisers.
4) Lynne's email suggested that there is a technical problem with the list.
If this is a wider issue and not a one-off I'll try to sort it out. It would
help if list-members could forward any error messages they have received to
me (rather than the list).
5) one of the problems the TC movement has is that while there's actually a
lot of evidence out there, it tends to be in a whole range of journals -
some medical but many sociological, criminological, psychological etc. one
of the things I would like to do in the next year or so is to set up an
online database of TC related articles in journals. Obviously it would just
be abstracts but it might provide a useful basis to start from. If anyone
could help me with that I'd be more than grateful.
So.... Lets keep talking about this. We very much need to be fighting our
corner in these changing times. There is a huge amount of misinformation out
there about TCs and it is really important that we take the offensive and
set the record straight.
Rowdy Yates
Senior Research Fellow
Scottish Addiction Studies
University of Stirling
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On 10 Jun 2013, at 03:12 AM, "Warren, Keith"
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Hi, All:
There is a Campbell Collaboration report that finds that supports the
effectiveness of TCs. As with any meta-analysis, a lot depends on what you
include.
In peace,
Keith
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On Jun 8, 2013, at 5:23 PM, "Kenneth Arctander"
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Hello everyone!
I've been reading the EMCDDAs European Drug Report:
http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/edr/trends-developments/2013
The report clearly states that there aren't any conclusive evidence with
regards to drug free TC treatment of opiate addicts:
"Cognitive behavioural interventions have shown some effectiveness with
opioid users, but evidence is not sufficiently robust to allow the
identification of which intervention is the most effective. There is no
conclusive evidence on the effectiveness of drug-free therapeutic
communities."
I would very much appreciate some comments on this particular statement in
the EMCDDA report.
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Sincerely, Kenneth Arctander Johansen
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