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These people tend to have a PhD. They can cope. Cheers, Daniela On 25 June 2013 10:41, Alessandra Forti <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Yes, but this is not a testament to how easy is the grid to use. We > require simple users to become managers when they don't know. They probably > never heard what an AUP is even if they might have signed few. > > cheers > alessandra > > > > On 25/06/2013 10:34, Daniela Bauer wrote: > > These aren't users, these are managers, they need to be able to manage. > I'm happy to answer a specific question, but "huh ?" ain't one. Otherwise > we end up with yet another dead duck VO and I've got plenty of those > already (names available on request). > > Cheers, > Daniela > > > > > > On 25 June 2013 10:24, Alessandra Forti <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> On 25/06/2013 09:49, Daniela Bauer wrote: >> >> I'm sorry, but it's not hard to add a VO to the operations portal. >> >> If you find a specific issue that is hard to understand,get it fixed >> with the ops portal, but if you don't know what roles your VO needs/what >> CPU requirements you have/can't make up some kind of acceptable use policy >> (you wouldn't let people on your local network without reading them the >> riot act, why would the grid be different ?) etc, you probably aren't ready >> to use the grid yet. >> >> Well most users are like that. >> >> >> Daniela >> >> >> >> >> >> On 25 June 2013 09:31, Stephen Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris, Ewan, >>> >>> On 06/24/2013 05:58 PM, Christopher J. Walker wrote: >>> >>>> I tried and failed >>>> >>> >>> Hm... if it's baffling to you, it would baffle anyone else as well. >>> >>> Should we get this written up to make it easy enough >>> for anyone to do in five minutes? >>> >>> We are using the Ops Portal as a broker for all the VO meta-data, >>> so it must be made user-friendly, one way or the other. >>> >>> Let's discuss in ops meeting, eh? >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Steve Jones [log in to unmask] >>> System Administrator office: 220 >>> High Energy Physics Division tel (int): 42334 >>> Oliver Lodge Laboratory tel (ext): +44 (0)151 794 2334<%2B44%20%280%29151%20794%202334> >>> University of Liverpool >>> http://www.liv.ac.uk/physics/hep/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from the pit of despair >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> [log in to unmask] >> HEP Group/Physics Dep >> Imperial College >> London, SW7 2BW >> Tel: +44-(0)20-75947810 >> http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/~dbauer/ >> >> >> >> -- >> Facts aren't facts if they come from the wrong people. (Paul Krugman) >> >> > > > -- > Sent from the pit of despair > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > [log in to unmask] > HEP Group/Physics Dep > Imperial College > London, SW7 2BW > Tel: +44-(0)20-75947810 > http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/~dbauer/ > > > > -- > Facts aren't facts if they come from the wrong people. (Paul Krugman) > > -- Sent from the pit of despair ----------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] HEP Group/Physics Dep Imperial College London, SW7 2BW Tel: +44-(0)20-75947810 http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/~dbauer/