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Hi Arran,
 
We have a similar situation with the National Eisteddfod regalia - they are loaned to the Gorsedd each June (announcement ceremony) and August (Eisteddfod week). I believe that the usual loan forms are completed.
 
Owain

Owain Rhys
Curadur Bywyd Cyfoes / Curator of Contemporary Life
Bywyd Gwerin / Social & Cultural History
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Hi,

 

We also have the same issue here with a Regimental Drum often being used for educational outreach and Regimental Comrade Association events.

 

We complete Loan paperwork and the ensure that the Regiment is aware of conservation, insurance and security requirements for the duration of the loan. In actual fact, lenders from the Regiment take the care of these items really seriously and it works very well.

 

Regards,

 

Rachel Silverson

Curator

Firing Line, Cardiff Castle Museum of the Welsh Soldier

 

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Subject: Re: Donations with special requests

 

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Hi Arran,

I don't have an example of a donation being lent back out, but we do have church plate on loan to us from the Parish Council who regularly borrow it back for church services; it is a slightly different situation, but I thought it might be a useful example. The PC insure the objects from the time they leave the Museum until they return and they are kept in a safe in the churchwarden's house when not in use. We are notified if anyone new comes to collect the plate and they have to bring proof of identity (passport etc) when collecting and we complete an outloans form in the usual way. The plate is currently in store, but when it was on display we did have to take it out of the case c.three times a year.

 

I hope this is helpful, generally, museum curators advise against accepting donations with conditions, but you may feel that this is not an option in this case.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sara

 

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Hello all,

 

I am hoping that someone has had a similar experience in the past and might be able to let me know how it has worked out…

 

We have been offered a chain of office from a society that is quite important in Cardiff’s history, but the society would want to be able to see the chain once a year for their AGM (not to wear it, just have it at the meeting).

The society meets outside opening times of the museum and would not be able to pay if we were to keep the museum open which means we might have to move the chain 5 minutes down the road, but it would definitely mean us having to move the object outside the museum.

We would also need to have a conversation about what would happen if the chain was to be put on display, as we would not want to have to open the case once a year to take the chain out.

 

Has anyone ever accepted a donation like this, or does anyone have any musings about the situation?

 

Thanks

 

Arran

Arran Rees 
Collections Curator / Curadur Casgliadau
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