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Absolutely agree with that now - but not bad for 1983! ;-)
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On 4 June 2013 11:05, Eloise Sentito <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  I would rather create (or occupy) a space *with* my fellow students in
> which we will all *be* curious, creative, critical etc. ****
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> (We’re just having a go at changing our ‘online feedback service’ into a
> space for dialogue and discussion instead. Surprisingly challenging shift!)
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> Eloïse ****
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> *From:* learning development in higher education network [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Sandra Sinfield
> *Sent:* 04 June 2013 09:36
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: study skills (RE: hhhmmm?)****
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> Dear Len and All,****
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> Yes - I do agree that it is useful to de-construct the constituent
> practices that make up successful study, the successful graduate - and even
> perhaps the successful academic and Learning Developer... In fact (as I was
> saying to Gordon Asher off list) - that is how I came to this field in the
> first place: asked to teach something called 'study skills' on an early
> Access programme - whilst simultaneously studying Critical Theory on an MA
> in Film and Television Studies (for Education). This was 1983 and the field
> was as yet un-theorised -  so the logical step for me was to de-construct
> the strategies, tactics and approaches that made up successful study or a
> successful student and to de-mystify them. Similarly to
> critically deconstruct the various genres of academia such that people
> could understand with what they were wrestling - and wrestle more
> powerfully. ****
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> I found that my mainly mature students were engaged with the world and
> with their subjects - in many ways they were already deep learners (if we
> want to use that rubric) - what they lacked if you like was what is often
> called cultural capital - but what I like to call academic capital. They
> did not necessarily understand the purpose of academic reading - nor how to
> make notes in such a way that *they* were enabled to take control of a text
> for themselves. Unfamiliar with formal academic genres they did not express
> their thoughts to best effect. I did not think that they were deficit
> because they did not have this understanding - but I could see that they
> operated less powerfully in academia because they did not have these
> strategies. I also saw that they could very quickly grasp the constituent
> practices that enabled them to engage powerfully with the academic and
> start to make their own arguments in ways that would meet approval within a
> formal academic setting.****
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> Another thing that these students typically had was a somewhat idealised
> notion of Academia as a 'better' place than the factory or the building
> site or the shop in which they had operated before. In fact I had hardened
> ex-French Foreign Legionnaires drop out of College when they discovered
> that academia could be as hostile, unfair and unequal as anywhere else (if
> not more so!). I would argue that the majority of 'my' non-traditional
> students did not have an understanding of the Academic world as a set of
> inter-locking systems: socio-political, economic, hierarchical, cultural...
> oh - and for knowledge-construction. So Foucault helped us understand the
> discourses in which we were choosing to operate - and the unequal power
> relations therein ... and Freire enabled us to *act* with our knowledge. *
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> This is the complexity of successful 'study skills' teaching I think ...
> and this in turn is linked  to the desires of the student and what they
> want from the educational experience - and also to our attitudes - I still
> don't think you can do much better than Carl Rogers who asks us to have
> empathy, unconditional positive regard and congruence when dealing with our
> students. When we have and show those qualities we are creating a space
> *for* our students...****
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> Best wishes,****
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> Sandra****
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> On 3 June 2013 19:34, Leonard Holmes <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:****
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> Dear all
>
> good to see that the notion of study skills is (again) receiving some
> overdue questioning. But I think we need to go further than 'study skills'.
> It's the whole notion of skills that needs to be questioned, as **any**
> notion should be questioned as part of intellectual enquiry.
> Gilbert Ryle made the useful distinction between technical and untechnical
> concepts. Clearly the term 'skill' is used as an untechnical concept in our
> everyday, mundane conversation. But once we start to use the term in
> **technical** discourse, problems quickly arise.
>
> One key way in which our thinking goes astray is the use of possessive
> language - we talk of 'acquiring' and 'having' skills - and the use of
> language of tool-usage - as if skills have some empirical existence.
>
> Yet clearly the term 'skill' does not refer to (denote) an empirical
> object - we can't locate skills **within** any human person (although
> perhaps some naive interpreters of neuroscience seem to think we can - much
> to neuroscientists' annoyance!).
>
> So we need to put aside the implicit possessive-instrumentalist
> understanding that accompanies the 'skills' talk, and enquire more
> seriously about what is going on when, in the current case, students do (or
> do not) become better (whatever that might mean!) at engaging in their
> studies. That requires a much more sophisticated theoretical framework than
> is offered by the skills approach.
>
> I have argued that the twin concepts of identity and practices provides
> for such a framework. Sandra stated that she had found that "sessions that
> students engage in voluntarily or at least willingly can be experienced as
> transformative". This would seem to me to be understandable in terms of
> identity - the students in question aspiring to the identity of a
> (successful) undergraduate (at whatever level, first year, second,
> finalist), so commiting time, efforts etc to achieving that.
>
> The various terms used in lists of so-called study skills may be viewed as
> linguistic repertoires for the practices appropriate to those who are
> positioned in particular identities (students), within particular social
> settings (undergraduate - or postgraduate - higher education courses).
>
> Instead of being mystified by being told that they must acquire/ develop
> this or that set of 'study skills', students might then be helped by being
> encouraged to recognise that, in order to achieve their desired identity,
> they need to engage in certain identifiable sorts of practices. It's what
> they should **do**, not **have**; and if they are not good at 'doing it' at
> first, then practise (with guidance, examples, etc) will enable them to get
> better.
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>
> regards
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> Len
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> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rooney, Stephen [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 03 June 2013 17:44
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: hhhmmm?
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> Dear all,
>
> Now would seem like a good time to remind people that Gibbs contributed a
> lengthier, and similarly themed, piece to the inaugural edition of the
> always fascinating and stimulating Journal of Learning Development in
> Higher Education:
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> http://www.aldinhe.ac.uk/ojs/index.php?journal=jldhe&page=issue&op=view&path%5B%5D=8
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> All best,
>
> Steve
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> From: learning development in higher education network [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Diana Aronstam
> Sent: 03 June 2013 17:02
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: hhhmmm?
>
> This piece is indeed very helpful, and articulates the issues very
> clearly. Gibbs has been critiquing the study skills model since the 70s
> and, if my memory serves me correctly, drew attention in the early 80s to
> the (then) groundbreaking  ‘phenomenographic’ approach of the Goteborg
> Group, led by Marton. They too provided a robust critique of this model,
> and their perspectives were transformational for me in relation to my
> understanding of effective learning in higher education.
>
> Many thanks, Gordon.
>
> Diana
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> Diana Aronstam
> London College of Fashion
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> From: learning development in higher education network [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of M. Gough
> Sent: 03 June 2013 16:22
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: hhhmmm?
>
> I am new to this list (hello all!)
> This encompasses so much of what I have found and have been trying to
> convince others of so it is very helpful.
> Thank you for sharing
>
> Mandy
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> (Kingston university)
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> From: Janette Myers <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, 3 June 2013, 15:32
> Subject: Re: hhhmmm?
>
> Thanks for circulating this Gordon. I thought it a very positive piece,
> making some succinct key points. It will be of use to me in supporting some
> of the things I try to convey about embedding, metacognition and the
> non-remedial (and transformative Sandra!) nature of LD
> regards
> Janette
>
> On 03/06/2013 13:11, Gordon Asher wrote:
> Raising awareness of best-practice pedagogy
> 30 MAY 2013
> Graham Gibbs asks what ‘study skills’ consist of and whether they can
> actually be learned by students
>
> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/raising-awareness-of-best-practice-pedagogy/2004204.article
> SOURCE: ALAMY<
> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/raising-awareness-of-best-practice-pedagogy/2004204.article
> >
> Tunnel vision: giving students ‘how-to’ guides to learning does not
> encourage the kind of flexible thinking that is required to get the most
> out of higher education
> When I was at The Open University in the 1970s, I tried to teach adults
> who were studying for the first time in their lives what they needed to do
> in order to learn ­effectively. When I was based at Oxford ­Polytechnic
> (now Oxford Brookes University) in the 1980s, I was teaching students whose
> study habits had got them through their A levels but were ­unequal to the
> larger and more ­complex tasks of higher education. And when I later worked
> at the University of Oxford, students were still asking for help with
> “study skills”. Their intelligence and achievements were intimidating, so
> what was the ­problem?
> The educational interventions that make most difference to student
> performance are not to do with improving teachers or curricula, and
> certainly not with policy or organisational changes, but involve improving
> students: changing what it is they do in order to learn. For example,
> teachers can often help students more by encouraging them to tackle
> feedback differently than by altering the feedback itself.
> So what does “improving ­students” actually consist of? “How to” guides on
> study skills – how to take notes, how to structure an essay and so on –
> contain what appears to be sound enough advice (although the similarity
> between them is both striking and s­uspicious).
> However, attempts to back up this consensus with evidence of the
> effectiveness of the techniques described have had little success.
> Students’ scores on “study habits inventories” – questionnaires made up of
> lists of the kinds of things contained in these books – hardly correlate
> with examination performance at all. An exception is how to be organised
> (by managing one’s time, for example). “Organisation” predicts performance
> where the use of most “skills” does not.
> Students also rarely use the methods they read about in how-to-study books
> or are taught on study skills courses, and for all kinds of reasons. Most
> importantly, the skills may be too rigid to span the range of demands that
> students actually face.
> For example, lectures may primarily convey facts, or explain procedures,
> or exemplify the use of the discourse of the discipline, and so on. Each
> requires a different kind of note-taking, and students have to be able to
> spot these varied demands and do something different in response, not
> simply use the same methods every time. Disciplines also vary in their
> demands and conventions: a student studying sociology and history may find
> that their ­writing gains good marks in one but not the other.
> Fit for purpose
> It appears that successful students (and successful academics for that
> matter) do an extraordinary variety of things when they take notes or set
> about writing. They have found, often through trial and error,
> idiosyncratic ways that work well enough for them, given their purposes and
> the particular learning tasks in front of them.
> It is possible to train students to use specific technical skills, but
> they transfer very poorly from one context to another (for example, from a
> training course back to everyday study, or from studying one subject to
> another). It is much better, instead, to develop a learner’s ability to
> study a subject within that subject.
> For example, efforts at some Ivy League universities to improve students’
> writing by hiring experts in communication who run generic courses in how
> to write have tended to be abandoned. Instead, postgraduates within
> subjects are trained to give feedback on assignments that leads students to
> reflect on their writing, rather than only on the content of the
> ­assignment.
> When I acted as a “study skills counsellor” at Oxford Polytechnic, I
> noticed that many of the bewildered students in my caseload were unable to
> describe what they did when they were ­studying (such as reading a chapter
> in a book, for example). Their ­studying was habitual and unreflective. In
> contrast, effective students can tell you all about how they go about their
> task, have a sensible rationale for doing so and change what they do when
> they notice that the context or task demands are ­different.
> In the educational literature, this is termed “metacognitive awareness and
> control”, and it is the most influential of all aspects of “study skills”.
> Improving students appears to involve raising their awareness of what they
> are doing, increasing their repertoire so that they can choose to do
> different things when it seems appropriate and tuning them in to task
> demands so that they can recog­nise what is required.
> Right answer, wrong approach
> Two crucial aspects of studying effectively are not about “skills” at all
> but about understanding. Research at Harvard University into why its very
> bright students sometimes study in unintelligent ways has revealed how
> important it is for ­students to understand the nature of knowledge and
> what they are ­supposed to do with it.
> The study found that unsophisticated students would try to spot the right
> answers in ­lectures, which they would note down in order to memorise for a
> test, a method described in the literature by the phrase “quantitative
> accretion of discrete rightness”. They were fantas­tically efficient at
> this and it had served them well at school, but it was the wrong thing to
> do at ­Harvard.
> Similarly, studies at the University of Gothenburg have revealed that
> students have quite different conceptions of what “learning” means, and
> these conceptions evolved through experience until, ideally, learning is
> seen as attempting to “apprehend reality”.
> Skills have to serve the purposes associated with these evolving
> concep­tions of knowledge and of learning: without appropriate ­purposes,
> the skills can be worse than useless.
> PRINT HEADLINE:
> Article originally published as: Self-reflective improvement (30 May 2013)
> AUTHOR:
> Graham Gibbs is professor of higher education at the University of
> Winchester.
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