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Hi,

I would draw your attention to the implementation section of the Finch Report (http://www.researchinfonet.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Finch-Group-report-FINAL-VERSION.pdf):

"9.3. A shift in policy towards the support of publication in open access or hybrid 
journals is at the heart of our recommendations. Nevertheless, for the reasons we 
have set out in this report, we believe that at least for the short to medium term, the 
Government, the Research Councils and the Higher Education Funding Councils 
should seek increases in access through all three mechanisms – open access 
journals, extensions to licensing , and repositories."

The report is not geared towards gold OA (and hybrid journals) at the exclusion of green and repositories (and if they are as "free" as is suggested, there is no reason to have a repository holding copies of gold OA material, to have your own assurance of preservation, access, internal reporting / compliance, etc.).

And yet, I'm sure most of us can see the value not just in free access at some point, but timely access to permissively licensed material. Whilst the Finch report recognises this as the ultimate goal, it acknowledges that there has to be a transition period.

Further, I'll also draw your attention to the G8 Science Ministers statement, and immediately above point 4. IV - which you quoted - it states:

"We recognise the potential benefits of immediate global access to and unrestricted use of published peer-reviewed, publicly funded research results in line with the necessity of IP protection."

Just like Finch, the G8 statement recognises the value of immediate access under a permissive licence.

imho, the Finch report and the G8 statement are in agreement.

Regards,
G





On 14 June 2013 23:11, Friend, Fred <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The statement from the G8 Science Ministers is very welcome, not least because it does NOT follow the Finch Report/UK Government "clear policy direction... towards support for publication in open access or hybrid journals, funded by APCs, as the main vehicle for the publication of research", but rather follows the policies adopted by Governments all over the world in recognising "that there are different routes to open access (green, gold and other innovative models) which need to be explored and potentially developed in a complementary way". It will be interesting to see whether the UK Government will now follow the G8 Statement it has hosted and support the development of green open access in parallel with its support for APC-paid gold open access. Such a commitment would do a great deal to heal the damage caused by the Government's hasty response to the Finch Report.

The G8 Statement is also welcome for its commitment to open scientific research data. This an area in which the UK Government is taking a great interest, and it is also an area in which international collaboration is vital if we are to achieve the maximum benefits for the global economy and society.

Fred Friend
Honorary Director Scholarly Communication UCL

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From: Heather Morrison [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 13 June 2013 21:25
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Subject: [sparc-oaforum] G8 Science Ministers endorse open access

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g8-science-ministers-statement

excerpts:

3.      Open Scientific Research Data

Open enquiry is at the heart of scientific endeavour, and rapid technological change has profound implications for the way that science is both conducted and its results communicated. It can provide society with the necessary information to solve global challenges. We are committed to openness in scientific research data to speed up the progress of scientific discovery, create innovation, ensure that the results of scientific research are as widely available as practical, enable transparency in science and engage the public in the scientific process.

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4.      Expanding Access to Scientific Research Results

We recognise that effective global scientific research and public understanding of science and commercial innovation by enterprises is supported by free and rapid public access to published, publicly funded research. The generation, sharing and exploitation of scientific knowledge are integral to the creation of wealth and the enhancement of our quality of life. We recognise that G8 nations have an important opportunity and responsibility to promote policies that increase access to the results of publicly funded research results to spur scientific discovery, enable better international collaboration and coordination of research, enhance the engagement of society and help support economic prosperity.

thanks to Peter Suber



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