Hmmmm….the real message from figure 3. The protein concentration…
seems to be that >70% of proteins do NOT crystallize in the 10-12.5 mg bin,
i.e. the ‘right’ concentration is an individual protein-in-that-buffer property - and
all one can say is that the concentration needs to be high enough so that the crystallization
conditions (either right away in case of batch, or vapor-diffusion assisted) can drive
the system across the solubility limit into supersaturation.
Most people actually working with their protein have already a reasonably developed idea what
their protein can take in various buffer systems (valuable parameter!)
… once they have scraped if off a centricon membrane, for example…
The pre-screening originated from structural genomics when one had no idea what
the ‘customer’ actually sent to the facility. If one knows the material it might be more
efficient (i.e. more information from the same precious material) to set up a plate of
96 20+20 nl nanodrops than spending 2 ul on prescreening.
Just an opinion sans statistics, BR
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Perhaps my question was not expressed well. I wanted to know if proteins crystallize more frequently when the protein concentration is in the range 5-30mg/ml.
The answer pointed out by my colleague Todd Green is on the page
http://www.douglas.co.uk/PDB_data.htm
Thanks for your inputs.
Debasish
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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Protein concentration for crystallization
Dear Debasish,
On my memory there are 2 way (but I cannot say that are the only 2!)
First: if you have the structure and you know the water content, you can guess the amount of protein crystallized in your drop by calculating the volume of the crystals.
Second (if you can waste your drops): Fish all the crytsals in any drop for a given concentration, load a sds page w/ silver staining developing and compare it with a calibration curve done with your same protein in the same gel.
Best
R.
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Subject: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration for crystallizationWhat would be a convenient way to estimate what percentages of proteins have been crystallized in a concentration range, for example 5-30 mg?
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