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so, having straightened out one problem, can you tell us how your son's "misuses" of words would "destroy the designer" ? -----Original Message----- From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CHUA Soo Meng Jude (PLS) Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:15 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Design of Fire Dear kluas, Reading yours again i realised ive misread it. Apologies. Language tripped me this time, like a gestalt. J ________________________________________ From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Klaus Krippendorff [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 2:05 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Design of Fire dear chua, i am curious what makes my view of language seem suspect to you. in my response to birger sevaldson, i tried to clarify my earlier comment and wrote that "language is the primary human artifact. it has a very long history to which almost every human being has made albeit miniscule creative contributions. and it is the medium by which we coordinate our activities, including utilizing sounds, movements, and matter available in our surroundings." how does this differ from your post? -- except for one claim of yours that your son's "misuses" of words would "destroy the designer." can you elaborate? klaus -----Original Message----- From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CHUA Soo Meng Jude (PLS) Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:17 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Design of Fire Why should you defer to Klaus' views on language, which seems to me suspect? Language is partly inherited, but also partly designed, shaped, modified. The oxford dictionary adds new words all the time, and Gunther Kress, precisely on the basis of our Design of word-signs, appeals for a new semiotics. My son misuses, and hence rehapes words to mean what he intends to communicate all the time, and by and by, his education will make him a sign user, and destroy the designer. ________________________________________ Hi Klause I would defer to your understanding of language. I have an ongoing interest in how imagination-images-and language interact in the design process (inquiry and action). Sometime over a beer I would like to talk with you about design as capacitation and design as communication and how they are connected. Harold On May 29, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Klaus Krippendorff <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > well, > yes, > Harold, > language is of course the first human artifact - not designed by any one, least of all by a designer, but by a multitude of contributors - and the foundation of the semantic turn in design. > klaus > > Sent from my iPhone > National Institute of Education (Singapore) http://www.nie.edu.sg DISCLAIMER : The information contained in this email, including any attachments, may contain confidential information. This email is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) listed above. Unauthorised sight, dissemination or any other use of the information contained in this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by fault, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------