From our understanding of Elsevier policy this is not the case in two instances:
1) if the institution requires deposit in their institutional repository2) if the funder requires open access.
I have an email from Elsevier today confirming that in either of the two cases above, immediate deposit is permitted but open access is not permitted until [after] an embargo period...
Additionally, Durham has reissued its mandate for self-archiving, including a requirement that only those deposited (not necessarily open access) can be used for consideration in promotion or probation (the 'how' this will work us still being looked at - So this has not yet been registered anywhere).
Because we now mandate deposit, Elsevier have indicated we cannot make any publications open access until we sign an agreement with them - which includes restricting access from immediate upon publication (as it was without a mandate) to the embargo periods mentioned above.
Clause C1: "You retain the right to do X"
Clause C2: "but you may not "exercise your right" to do X if you are required to do X"
Clause C1: "You may do X"
Clause C2: "You may not do X."
However, if Alicia is indicating this new stance is a move away from that which I was told by Elsevier earlier today, and is still less than clearly indicated on their web pages (which indicate an author can comply by self-archiving, but then go on to list embargo periods which do not meet RCUK policy) then that is great news.
@AmSciForum Stevan - Elsevier's#oa agreement with RCUK, including gold & green options, is described here: http://www.elsevier.com/about/publishing-guidelines/policies/funding-body-agreements/research-councils-uk …
@wisealic Simple Question: Is/isn't Elsevier-like Springer-still Green on immediate, unembargoed#oa self-archiving? http://j.mp/11B5gcg
@AmSciForum yes, Elsevier endorses immediate self-archiving of accepted final drafts free for all on the web immediately upon acceptance.
@wisealic Thanks Alicia. Then Elsevier remains on Side of the Angels & I will continue to attest to that!