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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture The requirement appears in probably a dozen or more 13th-C episcopal synods edited in Council and Synods starting with the Statutes of Canterbury in 1213 (C&S, II,pt. 1, p. 31). For more instances see C&S index under "Education" (one of the last places I'd have thought to look). John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cate Gunn" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:54:24 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] Salutatio beatae virginis and Lincoln in 1239 medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture I thought someone else would pick up on this but they haven't so maybe it isn't relevant, but Bishop Poore's Salisbury Statutes (reissued for Durham when he became bishop there in 1228) include: 'Exhortentur sepius sacerdotes parochianos suos ad discendum simbolum et dominicam orationem et salutationem beate Marie.' Councils and Synods ed. Powicke & Cheney,vol. 2 1205-1313 p. 57. Cate On 5 Apr 2013, at 14:22, Tuija Ainonen wrote: medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture In his 'Sermo in synodo' (c.1239) Robert Grosseteste adviced his priests to make sure that each parishener knows their 'Oratio Dominica', 'Symbolum' and 'Salutatio beatae Virginis'. While I assume the first two to be the Lord's Prayer and the Creed (supposedly the minor for parishoners? priests are explicitly told to know both the minor and the major), I am uncertain as what the last is. Could it be the prayer ascribed to Franciscus of Assisi (Salutatio beatae Mariae Virginis) that could already such a common prayer in England, or is this some other prayer? My interst is primarily in teaching Latin to undergrads of theology, and to give a little bit history/theology on the side. I still would like to remain historically accurate, so I am wondering that if I give the prayer associated to Franciscus in this context from Grosseteste, will I do historical injustice to England in 1239? Is there any dating available for this prayer? thank you for any possible replies, Tuija Ainonen Ph.D. student, UToronto / Latin teacher, UHelsinki ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion Cate www.categunn.com ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion -- John Shinners Professor, Schlesinger Chair in Humanistic Studies Saint Mary's College Notre Dame, Indiana 46556 Phone: 574-284-4494 or 574-284-4534 Fax: 284-4855 www.saintmarys.edu/~hust "Learn everything. Later you will see that nothing is superfluous." -- Hugh of St. Victor (d. 1141) ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion