Thank you Andreas.  Makes sense.

One last question.  When we are running the t-test, should we correct for multiple comparisons?  

Thanks,
Crystal

From: "Andreas J. Bartsch" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: FSL - FMRIB's Software Library <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:58 PM
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [FSL] FDG PET with Melodic

Hi,
 
you won't get a spatial map of the difference in your case. You get a spatial map of the average effect and, by using the time point entries (=subjects in your case) you can test for differences of the average effect  across groups (i.e. ordered subjects) outside FSL (using R, matlab - whatever you fancy). Does that make sense?
Cheers,
Andreas
"Franklin, Crystal G" <[log in to unmask]> hat am 9. April 2013 um 22:44 geschrieben:

Steve,
 
We have taken the melodic_mix data and performed an unpaired t-test on the components we are interested in.  Now we are having trouble interpreting the results. What does it mean if we see a significant group difference in a component?  We are also noticing for some components we are getting a negative and positive group mean, how do we interpret this? 
 
Thank you,
Crystal
 
From: Stephen Smith < [log in to unmask]>
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Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:39 AM
To: " [log in to unmask]" < [log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [FSL] FDG PET with Melodic
 
You already have this - the spatial ICA maps.
 

On 9 Apr 2013, at 16:35, "Franklin, Crystal G" < [log in to unmask]> wrote:

Will we be able to get a map from this?
 
Crystal
 
From: Stephen Smith < [log in to unmask]>
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Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:24 AM
To: " [log in to unmask]" < [log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [FSL] FDG PET with Melodic
 
Hi
In this case the ICA "time series" are the subject weights - so (e.g.) read melodic_mix into Matlab, identify the column number that matches the spatial map component number that you "like" - and then do a statistical test between different timepoints (subjects) in that column of weights.
Steve.
 
 

On 9 Apr 2013, at 16:13, "Franklin, Crystal G" < [log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thank you for your quick response.  
 
So I have concatenated all my single subject images into a 4D NIFTI image and ran them through Melodic using single-session.  Now I have my components, but I am stuck on how to get my group  differences.  Any suggestions?
 
Thank you,
Crystal
 
From: Stephen Smith < [log in to unmask]>
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Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:21 AM
To: " [log in to unmask]" < [log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [FSL] FDG PET with Melodic
 
Hi - yes this should be possible.  If you have "time series" data for each subject then you should use group-ICA and dual-regression; if you only have a single summary image per subject then you should concatenate all images into a 4D NIFTI image and run "single-session" (default) melodic.
 
Steve.
 

On 9 Apr 2013, at 14:22, "Franklin, Crystal G" < [log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear FSL,
 
I have a FDG PET study that contains 79 subjects that are either FH+ or FH-.  The data has already been preprocessed and registered into standard space.  I am now wanting to do an ICA analysis to get the components and then do group comparisons with these components.  Is this possible and if so, how do I go about setting this analysis up. 
 
Thank you,
Crystal


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