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Sir,

I have examined the density. Its extremely clear. I am attaching
the 2FoFc map map of this residue. As I mentioned previously, The
side chain density was conformed by deleting it and refining.


Thank you
Regards
Kavya

> Dear Kavya,
>
> I would examine the electron density of your Arginine. It may be present
> in two alternative conformations and you may have fitted the Arginine in
> the middle, e.g. with the NH1 in one conformation and the NH2 in the
> other.
>
> The Arginine may also just be incorrectly fitted. Using Coot with "Auto
> Fit Rotatmer" and "Real Space Refine Zone" you might be able to correct
> it. Just using "Regularize Zone" on the Arginine might give hints how the
> Arginine got distorted. However, before running another round of
> refinement, it needs to be fitted back in electron density.
>
> Best,
> Herman
>
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> Kavyashree Manjunath
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:41 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Angle restraints
>
> Sir,
>
> I used RCSB validation server. Deviations are as given below -
>  Deviation  Resi  AT1  -  AT2  -  AT3    Bond    Dict     Std
>                                          Angle   Value    Dev
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>      3.2    ARG   NE   -  CZ   -  NH1    123.5   120.3    0.5
>     -3.4    ARG   NE   -  CZ   -  NH2    116.9   120.3    0.5
>
>
> Thus its more than 6 sigmas in both the cases. Its not an outlier.
> zANGL is 0.628 and Rms BondAngle is 1.4077.
> would you suggest me to ignore this deviation? But will it not be a
> problem during PDB submission?
> What is the reason I am getting a deviation like this? Should I reduce the
> weighing term further down?
>
> Thanking you
> Regards
> Kavya
>> Hi Kavya,
>>
>> Which validation program did you use? How big is the deviation (in
>> sigma values)?  Is it the only outlier? What is your overall bond angle
>> rmsZ?
>>
>> Using external restraints is a bit over the top here, especially if it
>> is the only outlier. If your rmsZ is high (close to or over 1) then
>> you may want to try tighter geometric restraints overall.
>> In a normal distribution it is not surprising to find a 'true'
>> outlier, so if your structure is large you need to worry less.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Robbie
>>
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Kavyashree Manjunath
>> Sent: 2013-04-15 07:13
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [ccp4bb] Angle restraints
>>
>> Dear users,
>>
>> Validation of a structure showed a deviation in the angle between
>> atoms NH1-CZ-NE and NH2-CZ-NE in the arginine residue. Several trials
>> of modification of the orientation failed to solve this problem. I
>> also confirmed by deleting the side chain and refining, it confirmed
>> the presence of complete side chain. So I proceeded to use external
>> restraints for these two angles in refmac5 (version 5.6.0117).
>>
>> The keyword was as follows -
>> external angle first chain A residue 93 atom NE next chain A residue
>> 93 atom CZ next chain A residue 93 atom NH1 value 120.3 sigma 0.5
>> external angle first chain A residue 93 atom NH2 next chain A residue
>> 93 atom CZ next chain A residue 93 atom NE value 120.3 sigma 0.5
>>
>> Still there is no change in the angle, it continues to have the same
>> deviation.
>>
>> So kindly suggest whether there is any error in the keyword provided
>> or other way to handle this problem.
>>
>> Thanking you
>> Regards
>> Kavya
>>
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