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Thanks Fabian, very well put! If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitationare men who want crops without plowing up the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you Ye are many - they are few. > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:13:49 +0000 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Is this article an indication of an increase in racism > To: [log in to unmask] > > Bearing in mind that the article comes from a consulting editor of the > Salisbury Review - to which the Telegraph supplies a link I think we can > understand how this sort or "rational racism" is being touted. > > The Salisbury Review has been around a while, and became quite notorious > in the eighties for publishing material by Ray Honeyford. > > I think Kathy misses the point: it is the author, Jane Kelly, who > identifies herself as a racist: > > "But really I no longer need an excuse: mass immigration is making > reluctant racists of us all." > > and this done in a devious way to suggest that her racism is just > common sense. > > Now I am not sure that the article indicates that there is a rise in > racism, but it certainly indicates that those who edit The Telegraph would > like to stimulate a rise in racism. > > all the best > > Fabian > > > > > > > I think you may be using too wide a definition of racism. There needs to > > be some recognition that most prejudice is on the grounds of cultural > > factors. It's fairly routine for girls in Tower Hamlets to be harangued > > by young Asian men about what they are wearing. Also there were recent > > incidents of Asian men there attacking people drinking alcohol on the > > street (I don't like it either, but that's not the point), telling them > > "this is a Muslim area". Are they racists? > > > > This is a very complicated issue and simply labelling everything "racist" > > means we don't have to think about the limits of tolerance of cultural > > factors - which cuts both ways. Some things should not be tolerated. I > > am prejudiced against people who say that women are legally unequal to > > men. I am prejudiced against people who slice off the genitals of small > > girls to keep them "chaste" - does that make me racist? > > > > That article is a starting point for a consideration of an important > > question that a lot of "white" people are unwilling to think about because > > there are no easy answers and it's so much easier just to label attach the > > label "racist" - or as would have been done in the Middle Ages "heretic". > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:12:56 -0700 > > From: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Is this article an indication of an increase in racism > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > Click on the link to read: > > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9831912/I-feel-like-a-stranger-where-I-live.html > >