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Sure you have already, but don't forget to consider issues around Human Rights, easier if they are safety critical though of course Kind regards Wendy Wendy Stimson RGN SCPHN (OH) Director AWL Occupational Health Ltd Occupational Health and Workplace Mediation Tel: 01293 532477 Mob: 07814 288642 www.awloh.co.uk LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=77137393&trk=tab_pro Based in West Sussex AWL Occupational Health Ltd is a Company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 7380521 Registered office: The Meridian, 4 Copthall House, Station Square, Coventry CV1 2FL On 22 Mar 2013, at 18:15, sharon naylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > "The company is keen to support people but we have serious concerns about employees who know they have a problem and don’t declare it until they are caught which may mean they have worked for months or years in some cases while having dependency issues." > > Unless I`m missing the point but I think this could be a bit fraught with difficulties. I have been having similar conversations recently. Many people with alcohol dependency dont accept that they actually have a problem until they are "caught" . Over the years I have dealt with many people with such issues, and can think of two who died alcohol related deaths and never acknowledged their issues while alive even after disciplinary procedures, OH involvement, getting the sack etc. Its unlikely that anyone would "declare" they have a problem when denial is a big part of the profile in people who have such issues. And if it is found that they have worked "months or years" I`m not sure how such problems can be dealt with retrospectively. I think that maybe the only way you could identify such individuals would be routine random testing. > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:30:04 +0000 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Alcohol Policy > To: [log in to unmask] > > Thank you very much Dawn. > > Paula > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dawn Veal > Sent: 22 March 2013 13:20 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Alcohol Policy > > Hi Paula, > > Go to www.spreade.com > > It is a very useful place that has not only templates for policies but you can survey your workforce and lots more. I went to a lecture by the man behind this and it was very good. > > Thanks Dawn > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paula Highton > Sent: 22 March 2013 12:49 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Alcohol Policy > > Good afternoon List > > Does anyone have an appropriate Alcohol Policy that I can take a look at. > > We are currently looking to change our policy , specifically looking at what point people should request help for a dependency issue. There seems to be two train of thoughts and we are going round in circles at the moment. > > 1. Employees may request OH support and rehabilitation on admission of dependency ‘after’ they have tested positive during screening for due cause. > 2. Employees may only request rehabilitation support if a dependency/health issue is declared prior to any due cause screening. > > The company is keen to support people but we have serious concerns about employees who know they have a problem and don’t declare it until they are caught which may mean they have worked for months or years in some cases while having dependency issues. > > I would be really interested to gain people’s opinions and views on this, but more than anything would like some evidence to take back to our unions. It’s also important to note that I work in the heavy engineering industry and the work in each department is deemed to be safety critical. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Paula Highton > > > This email message has been delivered safely and archived online by Mimecast. > For more information please visit http://www.mimecast.com > ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. 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