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Hi Georgina

When I worked in the private sector in the pharmaceutical industry my NMC
registration AND RCN membership was paid for me, as it was for any medical
staff in that organisation. In the public sector I am lucky to get full
funding for attending a conference!

I would have no problems being employed on the basis you outline below.
Being a self-employed practitioner is also attractive but there is also a
downside to that such as pension, holiday and sick-pay issues.  Those costs
have to be factored into the costings for the service provision. A large
number of my graduates, some JISC list contributors, have set themselves up
as OH consultants and are making a great success of that move. One has gone
to Australia and now established a business in Queensland of which she is
the MD. She is probably the most successful independent (nurse) OH provider
in the whole of Australia:

http://www.kitney.com/about/

Worth accessing her website and also looking at some you tube clips of her
health presentations eg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lpbW1aGOCs

Anne

-- Anne Harriss
Reader in Educational Development
Course Director - Occupational Health and Workplace Management Programmes
LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY

Award winners:

* OH NURSE OF THE YEAR 2011

* INNOVATIONS IN OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH 2011
LSBU:

       
* Commendation: Vice Chancellors Enterprising Staff Award 2012




On 01/03/2013 10:50, "Georgina Mills" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Anne,
> 
> Thanks for your quick response. 
> 
> I myself work as a lone practitioner - I've been a qualified OHA for a number
> years. My colleague who is also on part 3 of the register, is thinking of
> taking the step from working with a large OHSP into working within a
> manufacturing company as a direct employee and had asked me what
> my opinion was in relation to having an OH department with no support in the
> set up.
> 
> I think he is more concerned with ensuring he meets the current standards that
> he has been used to  - ie his employer having the access to the correct
> insurance, support if an OHP is needed, clinical governance meetings etc.
> 
> When I told him that I pay for my own indemnity insurance he was horrified -
> this is something that was done for him previously!
> 
> I had suggested becoming a private practitioner and contracting himself to the
> company that way - however they want to employ him directly. I hope that makes
> more sense! 
> 
> Thanks again, 
> 
> G
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>> Hello Georgina
>> 
>> Many OHNs work as loan practitioners, it brings lots of job satisfaction but
>> also lots of challenges. Anyone considering going down this path must ensure
>> that they are appropriately qualified to undertake this role. I am assuming
>> that although you may be a student on an OH course you have not yet completed
>> a course in OH Nursing. My first OH job in the UK was such a role. It was a
>> very steep learning curve and I relied on what I learned on my OH course
>> every day. 
>> 
>> I am not sure why  access to an OH Physician is your concern. Many services
>> are now nurse led.  Access to a physician only being required for statutory
>> MEDICAL surveillance such as for HAVS or as required under Schedule 6 of the
>> COSHH Regs. A medical practitioner is not required for health surveillance
>> under Reg 6 of COSHH.
>> 
>> With regard to indemnity insurance ­ it doesnšt matter where you practice as
>> a nurse such cover is absolutely essential.
>> 
>> I hope this is helpful
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> Anne Harriss
>> Reader in Educational Development
>> Course Director - Occupational Health and Workplace Management Programmes
>> LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY
>> 
>> Award winners:
>> 
>> * OH NURSE OF THE YEAR 2011
>> 
>> * INNOVATIONS IN OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH 2011
>> LSBU:
>> 
>>        
>> * Commendation: Vice Chancellors Enterprising Staff Award 2012
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 01/03/2013 10:05, "Georgina Mills" <[log in to unmask]
>> <http:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning List - I hope you are all enjoying the first day of spring! 
>>> 
>>> I have a question relating to OHA's who are employed in house by companies
>>> in the private sector as a stand alone nurse. 
>>> 
>>> I have always worked within the boundaries of an Occ Health Company
>>> supplying a service to this sector, but I have been asked by a colleague for
>>> my opinions on moving into a company directly as a stand alone nurse.
>>> I have to say that I'd never really given it any thought and wonder if you
>>> have any opinions in the pro's an con's of working in this way.
>>> 
>>> My immediate thoughts went to things like indemnity, support from OHP's &
>>> clinical governance, your thoughts would be welcome!
>>> 
>>> G


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