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Love it! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Sender: [log in to unmask] Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:30:04 To: <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: Occupational Health mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] testing and hygiene I had a similar experience as a result of teaching on a first aid at work course. The trainer (a very experienced OHN but not me) was teaching a bout bleeding direct pressure, elevation etc. She also mentioned there is major trauma and the above techniques do not stop the bleeding then the next thing is pressure to a pressure point. Candidate on the course was a member of the Red Cross or St Johns. She ran to HR saying that the trainer had taught incorrect and outdated material, she knew she was correct as she was in the Red Cross, this isn¹t in the First Aid manual etc etc. I was asked to respond. I stood by the trainer only to be used in the event of serious bleeding. I had already checked out with a medical adviser at HSE application of indirect pressure could be taught in the case of major trauma. He agreed that was acceptable. The FA course happened to occur on the day of the Madrid rail bombing. I advised the HR professional of this and also reminded them that anyone who had had a limb been blown off would most likely have bled to death had in-direct pressure not been applied. End of complaint. First aid delegate got their ³comeuppance² as they were the one who showed their lack of knowledge. Anne On 21/02/2013 16:02, "Andy Heslop" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I had a similar "telltale" experience in the mid-nineties when working in a > manufacturing setting. We still offered a treatment service at the time (and > had separate male and female waiting rooms). I came in and did away with a > whole raft of potions, pills and lotions. You should have heard the uproar > when I started to wash their lacerations under running water instead of using > cotton wool balls, Savlon and some yellow cream whose name escapes me!! I was > called up in front of a senior management team meeting (the Union's Chief > Steward was also present). Soon shut them up by presenting all the > professional evidence supporting my actions and showing how much money I was > saving them per annum. > > Regards, > > Andy > > Andy Heslop > Occupational Health Advisor > Waitrose > Aylesford RDC, New Business, Channel Islands and Welcome Break > 01622 798911 > 07764 676644 > > > This e-mail may contain confidential medical information. The information is > intended only for the use of the individual named above. If you are not the > intended recipient or designee, you are notified that disclosure of this > information is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, > please notify the sender immediately. > > > > From: Tracy Turner <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: 21/02/2013 15:23 > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] testing and hygiene > Sent by: [log in to unmask] > > > > > Thank you for all your comments and documentation. I think my failing was that > although I knew I was not harming the emploee they did not know this. My role > is to reassure them and make them comfortable therefore in future I will make > a point of using the gel infront of them and have a box of gloves visible to > use if they start to heamorhage profusely from the lancet! Hate it when people > teltale to HR - would much prefer them to discuss ther concerns directly with > me! > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Gorton <[log in to unmask]> > To: OCC-HEALTH <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:30 > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] testing and hygiene > > ?Some useful info from GOSH > I would get alcohol gel - alcohol foam if you can as it appears to be less > irritating. > > These would be the same people who would say why didn't you clean the skin > with > an alcohol wipe when then has been discarded as a practice for anyone except > the > visibly dirty skin since 2007. > > My nurses wash before a clinic, use alcohol gel before any injection or > phlebotomy in front of the client and wash hands before/after glove wearing or > at least every 3 or so uses of alcohol gel. > > Regards > Sue > > Susan Gorton | OH Nurse Manager | Occupational Health Department | Great > Ormond > Street Hospital NHS Foundation Trust | Level 3, Ormond House, 26-27 Boswell > St., > London WC1N 3JZ |020 7405 9200 Ext 0247 | DD to OHD 020 78138554 | Direct Fax > 020 78138355 | Mobile 07833294568 > > Please be advised that all e-mail communication relevant to assisting in the > management of the OH process will be printed and entered into the individual's > OH file or copied and added as an electronic note on their electronic OH > record. > This may therefore be disclosed under the Data Protection Act (1998). > > ADVANCED NOTICE I will be on annual leave from 8th March until 4th April > 2013 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] On > Behalf Of > Tracy Turner > Sent: 20 February 2013 14:48 > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] testing and hygiene > > Good afternoon. I am currently doing cholesterol and diabetes testing in the > work environment. > > Someone has complained as I dont wear gloves and was not seen to wash my > hands! > I do not get the blood on my hands and if I do of course they would be > washed.I > have bacterial wipes. If you offer these tests please can you advise what you > do > regarding hygiene - would you wear gloves and wash between each person?. > Thanks > Tracy > > ******************************** > Please remove this footer before replying. > > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html> > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH> > ****************************************************************************** > *************************** > > This message may contain confidential information. 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