Same here,

I think the concept that landowners could decide whether features are recorded on the HER for their land is bonkers. I don’t think landowners will have rights to information taken/interpreted from aerial photo’s or historic mapping, or otherwise generated by third parties – maybe excepting where that information was gained by trespass or illegal, activity. 

Aside of the flying in the face of good environmental practice, historic (or any) environmental features exist and have a value regardless of their convenience to landowners, the amount of work involved (think data protection issues and landowner contact) would be huge.

I do think there is a case for notifying landowners where significant features are recorded though..

 

All the best,

 

Miles

 

 

Morning, chums!

 

We have never asked permission for sites to be recorded on the HER: I think the real problem emerges beyond that, when we act on the fact that something is there. Firstly, owners don’t last for ever, whereas sites might. We need to ask ourselves which right is greater: the right of the landowner to do what he/she pleases and trash antiquities if they so please (the farmer Tom Robinson model), or whether there is some inherent importance in a site that goes beyond the (temporary) ownership by one person. This raises fiery issues which to be honest, I am uncomfortable with.

 

Vince

 

 

Hi Jo

On the specific HBSMR question – no, recording ownership is not mandatory. In fact it’s not a specific “field” as such – this would be recorded by linking the monument record with the relevant people and/or organisations, and specifying the role as “Owner”.

Yours

Crispin

 

 

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