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I completely agree with Amanda, these people have clearly never seen what truly inspires children when they are engaging with history and what museums do best.REAL experiences rather than learning a list of facts and figures! There's always room for a breath of fresh air, which I would have welcomed if it were coherent. What a real shame. _____ From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Amanda Phillipson Sent: 07 February 2013 17:33 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Draft National Curriculum online I wonder if the person who wrote this has ever met a child? I have only looked at the History section but it seems that it's an impossible ask to deliver that an for children to make sense of it. Amanda Phillipson Team Leader, Learning & Activities Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council Bramall Hall T:0161 488 4286 From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Neil Dymond-Green Sent: 07 February 2013 14:52 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Draft National Curriculum online I presume it isn't only me who glanced over that document and wondered how on earth teachers are going to cover the quantity of KS2 stuff in any meaningful way. And how well 6-7 year olds (KS1) are actually going to be able to cope with 'concepts such as civilisation, monarchy, parliament, democracy, and war and peace that are essential to understanding history' Neil On 7 February 2013 14:42, Willis, Josephine (ACS, Cultural Services) <[log in to unmask]> wrote: History may not be compulsory, but the reorganisation of how it should be taught up to KS3 in a chronological order opens new potential all round, not only for the subjects we are used to promoting but also new historical periods. Jo Willis Senior Museum Learning Assistant The Commandery Sidbury, Worcester, WR1 2HU From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lesley Walker Sent: 07 February 2013 13:04 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Draft National Curriculum online Thanks for sending this out to everyone Liz. Sadly no compulsory history for 14-16 year olds. Museums should especially note - no Victorians at KS2!! and hopefully the six wives could be finally put to rest as well ... best wishes Lesley Dr Lesley Walker Heritage Learning and Interpretation 116 Castle St Woodbridge IP12 1HL Suffolk UK Landline +44 (0)1394 610420 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291394%20610420> Mobile +(0)7748500933 [log in to unmask] On 07/02/2013, at 12:21 PM, Liz Denton wrote: Dear All The new draft documents for England has just been made available http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/teachingandlearning/curriculum/nationalc urriculum2014/b00220600/consultation-national-curriculum-pos http://media.education.gov.uk/assets/files/pdf/n/national%20curriculum%20con sultation%20-%20framework%20document.pdf As the DfE website states On 7 February 2013, <http://media.education.gov.uk/assets/files/pdf/n/national%20curriculum%20co nsultation%20-%20framework%20document.pdf> draft programmes of study for all National Curriculum subjects in Key Stages 1 to 3, and draft programmes of study for citizenship, computing and PE in Key Stage 4, were published for consultation. It makes for very interesting reading ,,,,,,particularly at KS2 History... Best wishes Liz -- Liz Denton Museum Development Officer - East Yorkshire & Northern Lincolnshire (Monday - Thursday) Museum Development Yorkshire York Museums Trust St. Mary's Lodge, Marygate, York. 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