Chris,

We find it useful (in the city) to record instances of peat deposits etc so we can map extents. Similarly the depth of deposits (both superficial and solid) is very useful in the city for DC purposes etc. I suppose these reasons would be less valid for non-urban locations, however it may still be useful record geology in rural areas that may not be recorded in detail by the BGS, eg clay outcrops, which may help in predicting archaeological potential.

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Historic Environment Team
Winchester City Council
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
Sent: 14 January 2013 15:56
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Subject: Re: Recording of Geology in HERs

I'd mostly agree with Nick (and we no longer record geology) but I can see why city centres are different.

The basic question though, is why? I suspect people started to record geology in 'new archaeology' days when we thought that if only we could collect all the data we could get a computer to give us the answer (to paraphrase it slightly). There may be good reasons for recording the underlying geology (and Ingrid gives one: no one else is - or are they, what about geotechnical examinations) but it might just be 'because we can'. It's often worth considering if you've every needed the information for a query ...

Chris Webster
Historic Environment Record
Somerset County Council
Somerset Heritage Centre
Brunel Way
Taunton
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peckham, Ingrid
Sent: 14 January 2013 15:13
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Subject: Re: Recording of Geology in HERs

We record geology data (bedrock and superficial deposits) from archaeological reports not BGS mapping. The BGS data is inaccurate for much of central Southampton and it seems worthwhile to record the new information obtained from archaeological investigations. We do this fairly consistently.

Ingrid Peckham
Historic Environment Record Officer
Historic Environment Team
Planning and Sustainability Division
Southampton City Council
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tracy Matthews
Sent: 14 January 2013 12:53
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Subject: Re: Recording of Geology in HERs

Hi Paul,

We record geology pretty consistently, but mainly from reports rather then the BGS maps etc (mainly as they are fairly inaccurate for the city / floodplain area, plus we don’t have access to them anyway). We record superficial as well as solid deposits.

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Driscoll
Sent: 14 January 2013 12:35
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Subject: Recording of Geology in HERs

Hi all,

Hopefully this will be fairly straightforward. I wanted to canvass you on whether:

you record geology in records on a consistent basis;

whether the details of the geology come from the results of specific work (e.g. a DBA or a excavation report with actual descriptions, which may of course differ from the BGS) or whether you take if directly from BGS maps etc; and

Whether you record superficial deposits and bedrock or just one type

Thanks

Paul

Paul Driscoll

Community Archaeology Officer

Strategic Planning Policy and Specialist Advice Team

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