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Jan. 26 Dear Mogg, The Presocratics versus Homeric gods? Plato versus Homeric gods? The Stoics saving Homeric gods only through allegory? I appreciate your prior message, which was most cordial. I love debating. That is being scholarly, not unscholarly. But debating on the basis of knowledge is, to use a rather out-of-date line, what separates the men from the boys. Best, Robert ________________________________________ From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of mandrake [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:18 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Can non-europeans think (link) Dear Friends It is not unscholarly to debate and ask questions. Although in your latest one too many for me - although one caught my eye - the conflict "religion versus science": There is no conflict between pagan religion and science but there was a conflict in Europe between Christian religion and (pagan?) science ? (I note that some openly Christian astronomers and historians of science have been trying to argue the opposite) senebty Mogg Morgan > Jan. 26 > > Dear Nick, > > Many thanks for your fast reply. > > Obviously, I agree with you. > > I know well Christian polemics against Greco-Roman pagans and vice versa. I wonder what our experts, whose academic credentials are obscure, think of Justin Martyr, who was beheaded by Rome for his polemics against pagan philosophers. > > It does not take a specialist to be aware of divisions within the "European" realm. Since, as you note, "Abrahamic" includes Islam, what do our authorities make of the Crusades? An intra-mural squabble? What do they make of religious persecutions throughout the history of "Europe"? What of the conflict between religion and science? What of philosophical conflicts--for example, between materialism and idealism? > > Yes, the list could be most useful if it were scholarly. I especially like the publicizing of publications and of conferences that might otherwise pass me by. And subscribers who ask for references or other guides--this is what the list should be doing. > > > Best, The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683.