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Ben et al understood - care needs to be taken - I am aware that there is an important stream of magick - the synthesis or "hidden wisdom" of Islam, Christianity and Judaism. Every choice we make in terms of belief implies some sort of judgement, that's not really a problem - eg: people who become Buddhists could also be said to be making a judgment on other religions. Paganism is by definition quite tolerant - and does not claim to be absolutely right and everyone else wrong or deluded by demons. The problem is as you know, for many pagans the flawed "ten commandments" - the first two pretty much define paganism and indeed Egyptian culture - ie: no god but me, no graven images - so we are kind of excluded by definition? When it comes to ethics, philosophers always seem to look back to an older body of law from which it is a continuation. I guess the issue for African cultures is that scholars had previously said there was none other than that based on the Roman or Abrahamic tradition. But this earlier "european" based scholarship was biased and mixed up with the colonial project. That's what is meant by it being tainted ? As a matter of fact the Egyptian "law" codes did exist and are in many ways a better model. (there are other African law codes such as Ifa) So for example Roman law made a financial penalty on families who adopted orphans whereas in Egyptian law adoption was encouraged. senebty Mogg Morgan For others in africa etc they are other law codes from which > There are political vectors operating in paganism to which I am deeply > opposed. We have been at the intellectual barricades against Nazi, > fascist and allied currents within occultism for decades. I know Mogg > isn't the enemy here. I don't think his interest in alternatives to an > Abrahamic world view will give rise to allegations of anti-semiticism > or Islamophobia that would be problematic. > > My best wishes > > Ben > >