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I have checked your cv. You don't impress me at all. And given your history of acerbic, caustic responses to people whenever they questioned you on important matters, you are not a man of honor to debate anything with; nor as far as I know are you taken all that seriously by scholars who are actually working in the field whom I know -- despite what you may believe about yourself otherwise. As for your accusation about racism: given your documented ethnocentric and Islamophobic statements made on this list to me and others, take a look in the mirror. This pompous and ignorant statement also demonstrates the issue quite well and merely reinforces what I said in general previously, "...*tell us just what was novel in any of the non-Western writers on magic you were touting*..." On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Segal, Professor Robert A. < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Check my cv. I don't answer to you. > > At the same time you continually misread things. I didn't claim > expertise on my part but on the part of the editors of DEFINING MAGIC. > But then the publisher asked me for an endorsement, so that I guess that I > am seen by some as having some expertise. > > You were asked by me weeks ago to tell us just what was novel in any of > the non-Western writers on magic you were touting. Still working on that > information? Your statements that non-Westerners were shamefully being > overlooked was your sole argument--an ad hominem argument, and one > ultimately racist itself, that carries no weight among scholars. So I > replied more than once to you. > > I have no interest in any more exchanges with you. > > > RS > ________________________________________ > From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [ > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of N.W. Azal [ > [log in to unmask]] > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:13 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Can non-europeans think (link) > > But debating on the basis of knowledge is, to use a rather out-of-date > line, what separates the men from the boys. > > Indeed. But could I ask what you have actually written about magic on any > serious level which places you among the men and not the boys? > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Segal, Professor Robert A. < > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > Jan. 26 > > Dear Mogg, > > The Presocratics versus Homeric gods? Plato versus Homeric gods? The > Stoics saving Homeric gods only through allegory? > > I appreciate your prior message, which was most cordial. > > I love debating. That is being scholarly, not unscholarly. But > debating on the basis of knowledge is, to use a rather out-of-date line, > what separates the men from the boys. > > > Best, > > Robert > ________________________________________ > From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [ > [log in to unmask]<mailto: > [log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of mandrake [ > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:18 PM > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto: > [log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Can non-europeans think (link) > > Dear Friends > > It is not unscholarly to debate and ask questions. > > Although in your latest one too many for me - although > one caught my eye - > the conflict "religion versus science": > > There is no conflict between pagan religion and science > but there was a conflict in Europe between Christian religion and > (pagan?) science ? > > (I note that some openly Christian astronomers and historians of science > have been trying to argue the opposite) > > senebty > > Mogg Morgan > > > > Jan. 26 > > > > Dear Nick, > > > > Many thanks for your fast reply. > > > > Obviously, I agree with you. > > > > I know well Christian polemics against Greco-Roman pagans and vice > versa. I wonder what our experts, whose academic credentials are obscure, > think of Justin Martyr, who was beheaded by Rome for his polemics against > pagan philosophers. > > > > It does not take a specialist to be aware of divisions within the > "European" realm. Since, as you note, "Abrahamic" includes Islam, what > do our authorities make of the Crusades? An intra-mural squabble? What > do they make of religious persecutions throughout the history of "Europe"? > What of the conflict between religion and science? What of philosophical > conflicts--for example, between materialism and idealism? > > > > Yes, the list could be most useful if it were scholarly. I especially > like the publicizing of publications and of conferences that might > otherwise pass me by. And subscribers who ask for references or other > guides--this is what the list should be doing. > > > > > > Best, > > > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No > SC013683. > > > > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No > SC013683. >