Mark et al,
I have absolutely no intention of surrendering the moral high
ground. I suggest you have a quiet word with the AMEG antagonists
and put them in order.
I have no problem with theories or ideas but I really do draw the
line at being preached to incessantly and I know so do a large
number of others. This is precisely what AMEG have been doing for
months and you know it. To be brutally honest I have had enough of
it. And so have many others. My patience levels are lower than most
simply because I have a greater sense of urgency than many would
imagine despite my seemingly stick in the mud stance. We do not have
the time for more of this petty points scoring from individuals who
just don't get it. I would rather people actively pursued solutions
that actually worked than sit around fiddling with theories which we
have no way of testing nor validating as solutions, and all whilst
the planet burns.
I make efforts of my own to educate as many ordinary people as I can
to the dangers of climate change and show them what they can do as
ordinary people to mitigate for climate change, and this is all
despite me being a non academic. What I have to ask is what
precisely are AMEG doing other than driving people nuts by banging
on like they are preaching a sermon everytime they come on here?
What actual positive contribution are they making?
So once again I reiterate
'What part of 'NO' do they not understand?
Regards
Kev C
On 04/12/2012 07:18, Mark Levene wrote:
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Brian, Kevin,
in haste, Brian, unncecessary and fatuous comment.... and Kevin,
that touch of the intemperate readers sometimes get from yours....
frankly haven't time to moderate your spats. I suggest you both
just give yourselves self-denying ordinances until at least the
weekend. The level of JISC discussion was getting better...we're
in danger of going back from whence we came. So in the gentlest
terms, please...enough!
OK?
mark
on 3/12/12 7:28 pm, Kevin Coleman at
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Dear Mr Orr,
Kindly desist in inflaming the debates with your incessant
propaganda re geoengineering.
You are fast approaching the status of the Irish Election on EU
policy.
When the wrong result was received to the petition of a
particular EU policy they simply ran the election again until
the people (the electorate) agreed with the EU policy being
petitioned, despite the previous result demonstrating quite
clearly that the electorate were not in favour. Which
incidentally was what happened and at great expense to the self
same electorate (in more ways than one I may add).
Now is that not what you are attempting to do here with your
persistence on the geoengineering question? This also applies to
the rest of your group I might add, who also behave in the self
same manner time and time again. There comes a point Mr Orr when
enough is enough and I took the liberty of making that point for
and on behalf of those of us who quite frankly have had quite
enough.
I do believe that if you had, at any stage of the debate so far,
presented me with a convincing argument and a supportable
methodology to give the thumbs up to the use of geoengineering
techniques then I think I would have reached that consensus a
long time ago by dint of the sheer volume of postings that you
and your colleagues have seen fit to put onto the Crisis Forum.
The fact that I haven't does not in any way disallow me from
defending the status quo on non approval of geoengineering just
in case anyone happened to miss my previous objections to it. Or
as in this case the pro brigade do not get the message.
By the way my objections in comment form on the Crisis Forum
have been and always will be in the minority of such posts by
comparison to the deluge of pro geoengineering posts that have
beset us at almost every turn.
So in identifying your modus operandi I raised the point re
another individuals standpoint and you now feel inclined to call
me names. Isn't that 'Trollish' behaviour Mr Orr? (As per your
pertinently pasted definition).
Kind regards
Kev C
The Non-Troll.
On 03/12/2012 19:06, Brian Orr wrote:
Hi Kevin,
You're getting decidedly 'trollish'* in your style of
debating, at least when the topic of geoengineering is raised.
Brian
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