Does the scheduled/unscheduled distinction actually make a difference ? I've long stopped paying attention to it, especially as (apart from the SE) all services here are redundant and it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to the user whether I pull a CE/WMS/BDII out. Cheers, Daniela On 7 November 2012 08:20, Alessandra Forti <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Elena, > > the limit to declare a scheduled downtime is 24h in all cases. 5 worknig > days for long downtimes is a good practice but it doesn't change the > scheduled/unscheduled definition. > > cheers > alessandra > > > On 06/11/2012 21:22, Elena Korolkova wrote: > >> I thought 24 h is for a short DT, less than 4 h. For a long DT (like a >> month for retiring CE or at least one week ) it should be longer. >> Alessandra is saying it's 48 h. I thought it should be like a week in >> advance. >> >> Thanks you, Alessandra and Govind >> >> Elena >> >> On 6 Nov 2012, at 21:13, Govind Songara wrote: >> >> I think 24 hours would be enough to make it scheduled DT unless if >>> procedure recently changed. >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Alessandra Forti >>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> can you delete the DT? If yes, do it and declare a new one 48h later. >>>> The >>>> new one should still be scheduled because it is 48h in advance. >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> alessandra >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06/11/2012 19:57, Elena Korolkova wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello >>>>> >>>>> In fact I haven't got an advice what's a better way to delay a >>>>> declared >>>>> DT. >>>>> Your help is much appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Elena >>>>> >>>>> On 6 Nov 2012, at 17:15, Elena Korolkova wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Alessandra >>>>>> >>>>>> I know. It appeared after I've sent email. I was following the problem >>>>>> with atlas today. >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Elena >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6 Nov 2012, at 17:07, Alessandra Forti wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Elena, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if you are referring to the lack of CE in the SUM tests yours is >>>>>>> listed >>>>>>> and is running since this afternoon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://dashb-atlas-sum.cern.**ch/dashboard/request.py/** >>>>>>> historicalsmryview-sum#view=**test&time[]=last12&** >>>>>>> granularity[]=default&profile=**ATLAS_CRITICAL&group=All+** >>>>>>> sites&site[]=UKI-NORTHGRID-**SHEF-HEP&flavour[]=CREAM-CE&** >>>>>>> disabledFlavours=true&metric[]**=All+Metrics&disabledMetrics=** >>>>>>> true&host[]=lcgce2.shef.ac.uk<http://dashb-atlas-sum.cern.ch/dashboard/request.py/historicalsmryview-sum#view=test&time[]=last12&granularity[]=default&profile=ATLAS_CRITICAL&group=All+sites&site[]=UKI-NORTHGRID-SHEF-HEP&flavour[]=CREAM-CE&disabledFlavours=true&metric[]=All+Metrics&disabledMetrics=true&host[]=lcgce2.shef.ac.uk> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>> alessandra >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06/11/2012 16:33, Elena Korolkova wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want to retire my gLite CE and DT should start in the midnight. >>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>> realised today (after John Hills' email ) that I have a problem >>>>>>>> with SAM >>>>>>>> tests for my new CE. >>>>>>>> So I 'd like to delay DT by 48 h to see that the problem is fixed. >>>>>>>> When >>>>>>>> I'm trying to edit DT I'm getting a message that I should cancelled >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> existing scheduled DT and declare an unscheduled DT. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any advice on how is better to change DT in my case is greatly >>>>>>>> appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Elena >>>>>>>> ______________________________**____________________ >>>>>>>> Dr Elena Korolkova >>>>>>>> Email: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>>> Tel.: +44 (0)114 2223553 >>>>>>>> Fax: +44 (0)114 2223555 >>>>>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>>>>> University of Sheffield >>>>>>>> Sheffield, S3 7RH, United Kingdom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Facts aren't facts if they come from the wrong people. (Paul Krugman) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________**____________________ >>>>>> Dr Elena Korolkova >>>>>> Email: [log in to unmask] >>>>>> Tel.: +44 (0)114 2223553 >>>>>> Fax: +44 (0)114 2223555 >>>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>>> University of Sheffield >>>>>> Sheffield, S3 7RH, United Kingdom >>>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**____________________ >>>>> Dr Elena Korolkova >>>>> Email: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Tel.: +44 (0)114 2223553 >>>>> Fax: +44 (0)114 2223555 >>>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy >>>>> University of Sheffield >>>>> Sheffield, S3 7RH, United Kingdom >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Facts aren't facts if they come from the wrong people. (Paul Krugman) >>>> >>> ______________________________**____________________ >> Dr Elena Korolkova >> Email: [log in to unmask] >> Tel.: +44 (0)114 2223553 >> Fax: +44 (0)114 2223555 >> Department of Physics and Astronomy >> University of Sheffield >> Sheffield, S3 7RH, United Kingdom >> > > > -- > Facts aren't facts if they come from the wrong people. (Paul Krugman) > -- Sent from the pit of despair ----------------------------------------------------------- [log in to unmask] HEP Group/Physics Dep Imperial College Tel: +44-(0)20-75947810 http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/~dbauer/