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Strange. Though I did not press "respond to all" my message to Ken, which was intended merely for him, went out to the entire list? Sorry for that. Best Kristina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Friedman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:36 AM Subject: Re: Project UMA Dear Derek, You raise important and valid points in your note. This is a large discussion – far broader than the specific framework of Project UMA, it would be a thread on what we can know and do, and how. My note on Project UMA was quite focused. There was a comment on Project UMA posted to the list stating that even though this is a project in neuroscience, we seem tohave no one who works in neuroscience and we seem to have a lack of people with skills in mathematical modeling. A pendant comment suggested that we chaseddown some funding because it was made available by funding agencies. I wrote to demonstrate that we have abundant expertise in neuroscience and mathematical modeling. And I added that we did not get into this field because of available funding – rather, we have been investing in this area, and we won the funding we received in competitive bids against other projects across a range of fields based on an excellent proposal and a strong track record. The question you raise is one for another day. We can talk it over tonight (well, today where you are). Because this is a core problem in interdisciplinary research, it requires reflective consideration, especially in design and design research. Yours, Ken Professor Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | University Distinguished Professor | Swinburne University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia | [log in to unmask] | Phone +61 3 9214 6102 | http://www.swinburne.edu.au/design Derek Miller wrote: —snip— To wit: It is an error to either assume or conclude that relevant knowledge in the study of a mystery or the solving a problem, is “located” within disciplinary distinctions. Therefore, the inclusion of people from within a discipline does not, in itself, ensure that relevant knowledge to a task will be resident and available on a research or design team. Ken did not say or imply this, but did offer a defense along disciplinary lines. I would like to reframe that defense — if I may — because I’m increasingly concerned about the reification of disciplines as though they “exist” and “work” as units. —snip— ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------